Gary Lewis Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Kyle/First Today called a bit ago asking about the wiring for his father's radio in his '83. I pointed him to the 1981 EVTM as I was out and about. But, about the time I got home he sent a text with a picture that shows his wires don't match the EVTM. So, after a round with the plumbing so we could flush the toilets, I pulled Dad's radio and checked it wires with those of the EVTM. Turns out they don't quite match either, but I think the differences are errors in the EVTM. So, I put together a spreadsheet to show the differences in Dad's 1981 to the 1981 EVTM and Kyle's 1983 to the 1981 EVTM. Basically: Dad's: The EVTM omits the "hash" term on two of the wires, which clearly have hashes on Dad's radio Kyle's: His differs in that the speaker minus wire is apparently Bl/R, although I'm not sure about the red; the Orange wire appears to have no other color, although I can't tell for sure; his power wire is yellow, and he has an additional red wire that is probably the keep-alive, meaning always hot. So, if those differences exist, then what others are out there? Can people chime in with how their stock radio wiring differs and what year it is? I'd like to add columns to the table and post it in the electrical section of the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Today Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Gary, mine are as follows power plug: Yellow with black hash marks Orange with Silver hash marks Blue with a solid Purple stripe Speaker plug: Pink with Green spiral Pink with Blue spiral White with Green hash marks Orange with Silver hash marks Blue with Purple stripe The old radio has knobs and I am putting in a single DIN radio. It looks as if I have to run constant power from the memory wire to the light Green wire for the lights. Keyed power has to go to the Yellow/black hash wire on the power plug. Ground goes to possibly the Blue/purple stripe on the power plug. The Orange/Silver will not be used. On the speaker plugs you have 4 positive speaker wires and a common ground wire. (Blue/Purple stripe) When I checked the other 2 wires on the power plug, neither were a constant or keyed hot. Only Yellow/Black hash is keyed power. I think it will work this way, I just think it is odd that the colors in EVTM and other sources on the web do not list these wire color codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Gary, mine are as follows power plug: Yellow with black hash marks Orange with Silver hash marks Blue with a solid Purple stripe Speaker plug: Pink with Green spiral Pink with Blue spiral White with Green hash marks Orange with Silver hash marks Blue with Purple stripe The old radio has knobs and I am putting in a single DIN radio. It looks as if I have to run constant power from the memory wire to the light Green wire for the lights. Keyed power has to go to the Yellow/black hash wire on the power plug. Ground goes to possibly the Blue/purple stripe on the power plug. The Orange/Silver will not be used. On the speaker plugs you have 4 positive speaker wires and a common ground wire. (Blue/Purple stripe) When I checked the other 2 wires on the power plug, neither were a constant or keyed hot. Only Yellow/Black hash is keyed power. I think it will work this way, I just think it is odd that the colors in EVTM and other sources on the web do not list these wire color codes. Ok, I just looked at the 1986 EVTM, specifically the non-electronic tuned radio (what Darth came with). Power plug (C333) yellow/black - Power in run or acc light blue/red - instrument lights light green/yellow - constant 12V feed Speaker plug (C522) orange/light green - left front speaker + pink/light green - left rear speaker + white/light green - right front speaker + pink/light blue - right rear speaker + black/white - all speakers ground If only two speakers were used (Darth had no factory rear) then front and rear on each side were jumpered together at the dash plug. The four speaker setup was for Broncos only. pink/light blue - white/light green and pink/light green - orange/light green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetesPonies Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Although it says for the E series, not F , chances are these colors would be correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vjsimone Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 FYI - 83' EVTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzFace2 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 FYI - 83' EVTM Don't know how I did not see this. I have a little information from my 81 F100 that I posted when trying to figure out some wires in the dash radio area and posted some place else. 4 wire harness (I have found they are for speakers) 2 black/white dash - speaker grounds? 1 orange/green dash - left speaker? 1 white/green dash - right speaker? Brown plug connector 3 wires:? (I don't know if this is for radio or not?) 2 black to the same spade in connector 1 red/green stripe Next time I am in the dash or in the garage I will give a closer look now that I know what some of the wires go to. I can not put power to them yet. Dave ---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetesPonies Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Don't know how I did not see this. I have a little information from my 81 F100 that I posted when trying to figure out some wires in the dash radio area and posted some place else. 4 wire harness (I have found they are for speakers) 2 black/white dash - speaker grounds? 1 orange/green dash - left speaker? 1 white/green dash - right speaker? Brown plug connector 3 wires:? (I don't know if this is for radio or not?) 2 black to the same spade in connector 1 red/green stripe Next time I am in the dash or in the garage I will give a closer look now that I know what some of the wires go to. I can not put power to them yet. Dave ---- Was this premium sound or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzFace2 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Was this premium sound or no? On mine? I cant say for sure as it is from my parts truck (81 F100 Ranger) and the radio & HVAC control panel was "ripped" out taking part of the dash with it that I had to fix. The truck was also missing the doors but from what I can tell it had speakers in the doors as the speaker wires, cut at radio end (along with the HVAC wires), trace down to the kick panel areas and the colors match the decoding page. I don't know what that brown plug with the 2 black wires and the other color wire is to yet? I also think and maybe this was later years, there was a clock option that was above the radio and this plug/wires could be for that? Someday I would like to install a radio and have it feed off the stock factory wiring if I can. Dave ---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzFace2 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Was this premium sound or no? On mine? I cant say for sure as it is from my parts truck (81 F100 Ranger) and the radio & HVAC control panel was "ripped" out taking part of the dash with it that I had to fix. The truck was also missing the doors but from what I can tell it had speakers in the doors as the speaker wires, cut at radio end (along with the HVAC wires), trace down to the kick panel areas and the colors match the decoding page. I don't know what that brown plug with the 2 black wires and the other color wire is to yet? I also think and maybe this was later years, there was a clock option that was above the radio and this plug/wires could be for that? Someday I would like to install a radio and have it feed off the stock factory wiring if I can. Dave ---- As cold as it was in the garage (34*, 30* oat) I did a little digging for other wires. I have no clue if any of them are for a radio or not. I found a 3 prong plug with 4 wires in it. 2 - Black / Blue stripe 1 - Brown 1 - Red / Pink stripe I also find 1 cut wire in the area. Blue / Red stripe {edit: in post above it said this was dash lights?} Dave ---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetesPonies Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Was this premium sound or no? On mine? I cant say for sure as it is from my parts truck (81 F100 Ranger) and the radio & HVAC control panel was "ripped" out taking part of the dash with it that I had to fix. The truck was also missing the doors but from what I can tell it had speakers in the doors as the speaker wires, cut at radio end (along with the HVAC wires), trace down to the kick panel areas and the colors match the decoding page. I don't know what that brown plug with the 2 black wires and the other color wire is to yet? I also think and maybe this was later years, there was a clock option that was above the radio and this plug/wires could be for that? Someday I would like to install a radio and have it feed off the stock factory wiring if I can. Dave ---- Premium Sound meant there was an amplifier, small as it was. The wiring was different for that, like the info I posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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