kramttocs Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Matthew, A shield can attach there so debris doesn't have a straight shot to the drain on that side. Last year I posted a bunch of pictures of my wiper assembly and removing the rubber drains (along with the muck behind them) Lemme see about the dates in the WHYDTYTT Glad you asked about that bracket - wondered the same when mine was off. Anyone ever seen one of those shields? Yes - you can reach your hand up there and get to the drains. Loosening the 'tail' of the liner would help but isn't absolutely necessary. Just be careful if you try to remove the duckbill rubber without a forked trim tool though as on one of the trucks I stripped down it was hanging on by a single retainer and the other was tore out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sac79 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Glad you asked about that bracket - wondered the same when mine was off. Anyone ever seen one of those shields? Yes - you can reach your hand up there and get to the drains. Loosening the 'tail' of the liner would help but isn't absolutely necessary. Just be careful if you try to remove the duckbill rubber without a forked trim tool though as on one of the trucks I stripped down it was hanging on by a single retainer and the other was tore out. Here's some ideas for your cowl Matthew. I don't know if yours still has a seal in place, but mine didn't. The screen I just cut out of some window screen I have and glued it. Don't know if it will hold, time will tell. As for cleaning out the side ducts, have you tried sticking a shopvac hose down there? Even if you got the drain covers off it would still be a pain to clean the duct from there, the easiest would be from inside the cab through the vent. Although on the drivers' side you have the e-brake in the way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorsai Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 Start Here Matthew. Yep, I remembered that post and looked at it before writing my post - yours answered a lot of questions, but not all of them. For example, where the linkages meet the motor...I don't see a bushing on yours, but are your linkages as loose as mine are? If you could share those cutaway photos you mentioned, that would be super helpful. Just be careful if you try to remove the duckbill rubber without a forked trim tool though as on one of the trucks I stripped down it was hanging on by a single retainer and the other was tore out. Is that because without the tool the rubber will tear or break? I'm currently planning on getting rid of the 'duckbill' (a far politer descriptor than the other one I've seen for these parts...) rubber altogether, since I really don't want trash building up in there again. I don't know if yours still has a seal in place, but mine didn't. The screen I just cut out of some window screen I have and glued it. Don't know if it will hold, time will tell. I don't have anything like what you seem to have made for your cowl, but mine looks like this: I'm also going to put screen under mine, but I'm a little hesitant to use something as permanent as glue - I'm considering gaffer tape. It won't hold as well as glue, and maybe won't hold at all...but if it does, it would then be easier to replace the screen if/when it gets damaged. As for the shop-vac...I considered it, but (a) my hose is too big to get down there, and (b) there was enough wet, packed dirt down there to grow potatoes. I got most of it out by hand through the kick panel vent, then got more out with a spoon. If I can get that drain out I'm sure I could wash the rest away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Start Here Matthew. Yep, I remembered that post and looked at it before writing my post - yours answered a lot of questions, but not all of them. For example, where the linkages meet the motor...I don't see a bushing on yours, but are your linkages as loose as mine are? If you could share those cutaway photos you mentioned, that would be super helpful. Just be careful if you try to remove the duckbill rubber without a forked trim tool though as on one of the trucks I stripped down it was hanging on by a single retainer and the other was tore out. Is that because without the tool the rubber will tear or break? I'm currently planning on getting rid of the 'duckbill' (a far politer descriptor than the other one I've seen for these parts...) rubber altogether, since I really don't want trash building up in there again. I don't know if yours still has a seal in place, but mine didn't. The screen I just cut out of some window screen I have and glued it. Don't know if it will hold, time will tell. I don't have anything like what you seem to have made for your cowl, but mine looks like this: I'm also going to put screen under mine, but I'm a little hesitant to use something as permanent as glue - I'm considering gaffer tape. It won't hold as well as glue, and maybe won't hold at all...but if it does, it would then be easier to replace the screen if/when it gets damaged. As for the shop-vac...I considered it, but (a) my hose is too big to get down there, and (b) there was enough wet, packed dirt down there to grow potatoes. I got most of it out by hand through the kick panel vent, then got more out with a spoon. If I can get that drain out I'm sure I could wash the rest away. There actually isn't a picture of the drain with the fender cut off. But this can give you an idea. It's just above the cut line. Here is the opening, looking up. As for the wiper motor, not really a linkage bushing on the crank. My wiper had wallowed out the output of the gearbox, resulting in a very sloppy crank. I've never seen gasket on the underside of a cowl either, but I can see how it might help support it and keep rattles at Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Just be careful if you try to remove the duckbill rubber without a forked trim tool though as on one of the trucks I stripped down it was hanging on by a single retainer and the other was tore out. Is that because without the tool the rubber will tear or break? I'm currently planning on getting rid of the 'duckbill' (a far politer descriptor than the other one I've seen for these parts...) rubber altogether, since I really don't want trash building up in there again. Exactly but if you are getting rid of it (which I've considered also), I'd just grab and yank. Yeah, I've heard it called the other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorsai Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 Just be careful if you try to remove the duckbill rubber without a forked trim tool though as on one of the trucks I stripped down it was hanging on by a single retainer and the other was tore out. Is that because without the tool the rubber will tear or break? I'm currently planning on getting rid of the 'duckbill' (a far politer descriptor than the other one I've seen for these parts...) rubber altogether, since I really don't want trash building up in there again. Exactly but if you are getting rid of it (which I've considered also), I'd just grab and yank. Yeah, I've heard it called the other... So what’s the downside, if any, of getting rid of the drain plastic? I just got my hands up to it (I’m literally under the truck as I type this) and it would be easy enough to yank it loose. But I know Ford engineered every part with a purpose, and I’d love to know what that is before I rip something out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 So what’s the downside, if any, of getting rid of the drain plastic? I just got my hands up to it (I’m literally under the truck as I type this) and it would be easy enough to yank it loose. But I know Ford engineered every part with a purpose, and I’d love to know what that is before I rip something out. Mice/critters is the only explanation I've ever heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorsai Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 Mice/critters is the only explanation I've ever heard That’s all I could come up with myself. I think I’m just going to yank them out and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 That’s all I could come up with myself. I think I’m just going to yank them out and see what happens. I've been without since that August post. There's chipmunks EVERYWHERE, but I haven't seen any evidence inside my truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorsai Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 I've been without since that August post. There's chipmunks EVERYWHERE, but I haven't seen any evidence inside my truck. Well, I was able to get the driver's side out tonight...I swear the passenger side has a smaller hole to reach up into, I couldn't get my hand in there. I'll try again tomorrow, but I may have to shove it down from the top side. I got the driver's side washed out and it looks real nice now. Although with my luck a colony of these things will probably set up residence by morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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