Rembrant Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 I dragged the 85 F150 back in out of the snow yesterday to start dismantling it. This thing is SO ugly and dirty it needs to be disassembled. Oh, and I still need to finish the Blue Mule before spring...lol. Cory, You got a lot done in a short time. Can you tell me how far in from the outside edge that white center goes in on the back panel? And for anyone, would you know if that same center color goes in the same distance on a flare side or farther as the box goes to that first rib. My flare was painted a few times and then flat black and could not tell. Parts truck being a style side and also repainted I don't want to go by it when I lay out that color and tape lines. Thanks Dave ---- Dave, 31.5” from the center of the cab. It’s been painted though so no idea if that’s original or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 Dave, 31.5” from the center of the cab. It’s been painted though so no idea if that’s original or not. That's a wrap for today. The 8ft bed and rear step bumper left for a new home earlier today. Engine and trans will be out tomorrow, and that will be it for this week. I have to organize the parts I'm keeping and get rid of the rest. Having the frame bare will make the job of shortening it a little easier. I'll be putting what parts I can inside the cab, and it will get shrink wrapped and placed outside until I get another cab to swap all the parts over to. I'd rather swap from cab to cab to save myself any confusion from just having loose parts laying around. Last thing I did before sweeping up was to recip the exhaust off the truck. It's already in the scrap bin. The frame is in pretty decent condition in this old thing, which is surprising considering how terrible the body was. Heck, even the rear cab mount bolts screwed out with ease. I didn't get to look to closely at the engine, but I did notice that the timing cover does have the mechanical fuel pump mount cast into it. I wonder if it's as simple as cutting the hole open and threading the two mounting bolt holes? I was reading on FTE that there's even a fairly good chance that this engine will still have the fuel pump eccentric in it. It'll be a few weeks before I get to that, but if I already have what I need to make a mechanical pump work it will save me the trouble of scrounging the junkyard in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 That's a wrap for today. The 8ft bed and rear step bumper left for a new home earlier today. Engine and trans will be out tomorrow, and that will be it for this week. I have to organize the parts I'm keeping and get rid of the rest. Having the frame bare will make the job of shortening it a little easier. I'll be putting what parts I can inside the cab, and it will get shrink wrapped and placed outside until I get another cab to swap all the parts over to. I'd rather swap from cab to cab to save myself any confusion from just having loose parts laying around. Last thing I did before sweeping up was to recip the exhaust off the truck. It's already in the scrap bin. The frame is in pretty decent condition in this old thing, which is surprising considering how terrible the body was. Heck, even the rear cab mount bolts screwed out with ease. I didn't get to look to closely at the engine, but I did notice that the timing cover does have the mechanical fuel pump mount cast into it. I wonder if it's as simple as cutting the hole open and threading the two mounting bolt holes? I was reading on FTE that there's even a fairly good chance that this engine will still have the fuel pump eccentric in it. It'll be a few weeks before I get to that, but if I already have what I need to make a mechanical pump work it will save me the trouble of scrounging the junkyard in the winter. You are a man on a mission! Well done! Yes, from what I understand you can cut the hole open, thread the holes, and put a pump on there. But, I've not done it, so keep that in mind. And, I like your organization. Keeping the parts in the cab in their original position will keep the fasteners in place as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 You are a man on a mission! Well done! I'm on a bit of a mission because I only have limited use of the shop and equipment. I can usually use it as much as I want, but we do have a couple projects starting soon, which means all my junk has to be out of the way...lol. I have free rein of the shop on the weekends, but I try to have all my stuff cleaned up and out of the way by Sunday evening to keep the peace. This first part is happening very quick Gary, but it's going to be moving pretty slowly from here on out. Oh well, there are worse things a fella could do with his time...haha. No idle hands here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 You are a man on a mission! Well done! I'm on a bit of a mission because I only have limited use of the shop and equipment. I can usually use it as much as I want, but we do have a couple projects starting soon, which means all my junk has to be out of the way...lol. I have free rein of the shop on the weekends, but I try to have all my stuff cleaned up and out of the way by Sunday evening to keep the peace. This first part is happening very quick Gary, but it's going to be moving pretty slowly from here on out. Oh well, there are worse things a fella could do with his time...haha. No idle hands here. Yup, Proverbs 16:27 is right. And that's not you. Seriously, I'm impressed. If you'd done Huck he'd have been done overnight instead of overmonth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 Yup, Proverbs 16:27 is right. And that's not you. Seriously, I'm impressed. If you'd done Huck he'd have been done overnight instead of overmonth. Gary, This 85 happens to have air bags in the front coil springs. I know they're aftermarket, but did they come as an assembly with aftermarket springs as well, or did the airbags fit inside the stock coil springs? Are you familiar with these? I'm just curious what else was changed when these were installed, or was it simply that the air bags were installed and everything else is stock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 Gary, This 85 happens to have air bags in the front coil springs. I know they're aftermarket, but did they come as an assembly with aftermarket springs as well, or did the airbags fit inside the stock coil springs? Are you familiar with these? I'm just curious what else was changed when these were installed, or was it simply that the air bags were installed and everything else is stock... Oh, and another question... I haven't removed/installed and automatic transmission from a vehicle in 25 years (and that was a 700R4 behind a SBC). To pull the AOD in this truck, I'll have to remove the lower bellhousing inspection cover correct? And then unbolt the torque converter from the flexplate? (Is that what you call it? The flexplate...or ring gear? Or is the ring gear ON the flexplate? Trying to get my terminology correct here...lol). Finally get to use some real hand tools today, instead of... Zip cut disk on the angle grinder Drill... Recip saw... Cutting torches... It's going to seem, so,....civilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Oh, and another question... I haven't removed/installed and automatic transmission from a vehicle in 25 years (and that was a 700R4 behind a SBC). To pull the AOD in this truck, I'll have to remove the lower bellhousing inspection cover correct? And then unbolt the torque converter from the flexplate? (Is that what you call it? The flexplate...or ring gear? Or is the ring gear ON the flexplate? Trying to get my terminology correct here...lol). Finally get to use some real hand tools today, instead of... Zip cut disk on the angle grinder Drill... Recip saw... Cutting torches... It's going to seem, so,....civilized. Cory - Pretty sure the air bags were just slipped inside the coils. That's the way I've seen it done. But I don't know if you have stock coils, although that is the most common way I've seen. The bags go up/down against the supports on the end and provide more lift as you add air. On the AOD (AOT ) removal, you do have to pull the inspection cover and remove the bolts holding the torque converter to the flex plate. And you'll have to rotate the engine between each bolt. But watch out for the drain as if you pull it you'd better be ready for a bunch of fluid. And it is a flex plate with a ring gear on it. At least that's the common usage. Ford typically called that a flywheel, but in the case of the diesel they called it a PLATE (FLYWHEEL TO CONVERTER FLEX). Anyway, enjoy "wrenching". I find it much more rewarding that cutting as there's always the nagging fear that I'll need the part I just cut up at some time in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzFace2 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Dave, 31.5” from the center of the cab. It’s been painted though so no idea if that’s original or not. Thanks for the information it is better then nothing. Man you went crazy on that thing and you got to do what you got to do to keep the peace so you have a place to work inside. Being the bed is gone, a day short!, you cant get the other info I was looking for on the long bed shields NP. On the air bags as Gary said most of the time they were slipped inside the stock spring. Wonder if they were added to level the truck? If it had a plow then I would say that is why they were added. As for keeping parts on the parts truck till needed I did the same thing. Right up to where it was taking up too much room. Now that I am down to little things it is getting ruff on how things go back together, 3+ years don't help either. Thanks Dave ---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve83 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Oh, and another question... I haven't removed/installed and automatic transmission from a vehicle in 25 years (and that was a 700R4 behind a SBC). To pull the AOD in this truck, I'll have to remove the lower bellhousing inspection cover correct? And then unbolt the torque converter from the flexplate? (Is that what you call it? The flexplate...or ring gear? Or is the ring gear ON the flexplate? Trying to get my terminology correct here...lol). Finally get to use some real hand tools today, instead of... Zip cut disk on the angle grinder Drill... Recip saw... Cutting torches... It's going to seem, so,....civilized. The torque converter nuts are probably 9/16" (or 14mm). Mark one of the studs & its flexplate hole with paint to indicate the original assembly orientation. Also mark the flexplate to the crank hub - I like to use a cold chisel for that (since it's truly permanent) and then add paint for visibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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