ckuske Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Hi Everyone, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on how to approach replacing the Tail Lights on my '84 Flareside. I'm specifically looking for a replacement for E0TZ-13405-B (LH) and E0TZ-13404-B (RH). The right hand one seems relatively easy to find on the market, but E0TZ-13405-B seems to be near impossible. My truck bumper has the license plate in the center, not underneath the LH tail light so I don't need a LH tail light that has the clear lens on the bottom to illuminate the license plate. Aftermarket lights that have side markers and no clear lens on the LH bottom don't seem to exist. I've looked at some Grote options and they are close, but either don't have the side markers or they have the clear lens on the bottom of the LH light. I guess I'm being too picky trying to find a light that is identical to the originals, but that's the goal of my restoration where possible. Ideas? Hacks or mods I can make to other lights? (I guess I can just tape over the clear lens, but that's not my preferred approach) Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Not what you are looking for, but what I found. http://www.lmctruck.com/features/fd/FD7LA.htm https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-NORS-1967-1984-FORD-STEPSIDE-FLARESIDE-TRUCK-PAIR-OF-TAIL-LIGHT-LENSES/263776507422?hash=item3d6a4e161e:g:RXUAAOSw-K9ZLsFt:rk:2:pf:0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckuske Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Not what you are looking for, but what I found. http://www.lmctruck.com/features/fd/FD7LA.htm https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-NORS-1967-1984-FORD-STEPSIDE-FLARESIDE-TRUCK-PAIR-OF-TAIL-LIGHT-LENSES/263776507422?hash=item3d6a4e161e:g:RXUAAOSw-K9ZLsFt:rk:2:pf:0 Thanks for looking, I'll take any and all help! :) The LMC link is so close, if only they had the housings themselves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just curious, but what is wrong with the original housings? Are they damaged or are you just wanting new ones as part of the restoration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckuske Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just curious, but what is wrong with the original housings? Are they damaged or are you just wanting new ones as part of the restoration? Hi Rembrandt - First of all, the pic of your truck is great! The original housings are long gone, there are aftermarket ones (these https://www.rpru.com/ford-truck-left-driver-side-tail-light-lens-and-housing/c34p5403) installed currently by a previous owner. But they have the clear lens on the LH and are broken also (damaged when I bought the truck) so I need replacements either way. Either the originals which seems to be almost impossible, or something as similar as I can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Hi Rembrandt - First of all, the pic of your truck is great! The original housings are long gone, there are aftermarket ones (these https://www.rpru.com/ford-truck-left-driver-side-tail-light-lens-and-housing/c34p5403) installed currently by a previous owner. But they have the clear lens on the LH and are broken also (damaged when I bought the truck) so I need replacements either way. Either the originals which seems to be almost impossible, or something as similar as I can get. Ahh...OK, understood! I just went and had a look at my 1984 Flareside tail lights....I honestly hadn't looked very closely at them before. I had been thinking of replacing mine with the LED ones, but like you I've kinda wanted to keep the originals. I know where there are a few of these trucks parked, so I'll check and see if the lights are decent on any of them. One of them for sure has the other style lights (there were two different Flareside ones), so it isn't the same as your '84. However, these trucks are not close by, so I don't know when or how soon I can get a look at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckuske Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Ahh...OK, understood! I just went and had a look at my 1984 Flareside tail lights....I honestly hadn't looked very closely at them before. I had been thinking of replacing mine with the LED ones, but like you I've kinda wanted to keep the originals. I know where there are a few of these trucks parked, so I'll check and see if the lights are decent on any of them. One of them for sure has the other style lights (there were two different Flareside ones), so it isn't the same as your '84. However, these trucks are not close by, so I don't know when or how soon I can get a look at them. Hi Rembrandt, That'd be great, thanks! I'm not in a rush, so please don't go out of your way just for this. I really appreciate it when you do get around to it though! If I just had the housings, I could rebuild them from there using other parts (like from that LMC link) Just curious (when you get a chance)... is there a Grote part number on the back side somewhere on your truck? There's no clear lens on the bottom of the LH side? Sorry, I'm kinda going off memory here... long story but I bought the truck back last year after selling it about 16 years ago (my dad was the original owner) and my memory is sometimes fuzzy on what was really there originally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyn Blin Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Hi there, I went down this rabbit hole last year, and although I ended up going with some Grote LED's (non-Ford-specific connectors), I recorded most the info as I was comparing and contrasting. Whatever you decide on, you're on the right track by getting part numbers, which will allow you to verify and compare offerings. I found quite a range in prices between LMC, NPD, Grote direct, Granger and Amazon. I'll dig a little and see if I can find my notes. (Edit) I haven't looked for my notes yet, but I went to Shelf-o-Parts and realized I still have the original Grote pod with Ford's stamp on the back. No Ford part number, but it's Grote Model 5096, and although it's marked "RH" for right-hand, they are interchangeable, and it has a side marker and no license light. If you want it, it's yours for the cost of shipping. Fair warning, the leads are clipped close to the housing, but that's a pretty easy fix. There's a small nick out of the side marker (but no white light leakage), the lens is intact, and the housing is in good shape, if a bit of a patina from 35 years on the truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyn Blin Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Ahh...OK, understood! I just went and had a look at my 1984 Flareside tail lights....I honestly hadn't looked very closely at them before. I had been thinking of replacing mine with the LED ones, but like you I've kinda wanted to keep the originals. I know where there are a few of these trucks parked, so I'll check and see if the lights are decent on any of them. One of them for sure has the other style lights (there were two different Flareside ones), so it isn't the same as your '84. However, these trucks are not close by, so I don't know when or how soon I can get a look at them. Cory, I struggled with deciding on LED vs original incandescent, and in going with the former, couldn't be more pleased. The current draw is much lower, the lights much brighter (the reverse lights are so good I can navigate from the rear view after the sun goes down), and the Grotes are so well potted, I don't think vibration will ever be a cause for failure. On the down side, at the time I shopped, Grote's Ford connectors were only offered on their incandescent model. Also, their wire color scheme was different for the LED's. Neither was an issue for me as I had to untangle and re-loom a mess for a trailer hack the PO had made. There's a thread entry somewhere on here with those details. Also, you lose some of the "warmth" of the fade in the on-off signal cycle with a no-load relay in the fuse panel. There are solutions for that, though too, with some no-load signal relays now for LED's that emulate the warm-fade incandescent cycle (or even offer a custom flash pattern). You'll need to replace the hazard relay, too if you go with an LED option. For the collective wisdom, the Grote (OEM manufacturer) LED options are: Grote G5212 Hi Count LED Box Lamp (Left side with license light) Grote G5202 Hi Count LED Box Lamp I've got a funny video of one one of my girls helping me secure the ground as the initial operations gave some unexpected results. (Both have the DOT-required side markers) edit- one more resource for the collective mental database- Grote's collection of stop/tail/turn : https://www.grote.com/product-category/stop-tail-turn-lights/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just curious (when you get a chance)... is there a Grote part number on the back side somewhere on your truck? There's no clear lens on the bottom of the LH side? Sorry, I'm kinda going off memory here... long story but I bought the truck back last year after selling it about 16 years ago (my dad was the original owner) and my memory is sometimes fuzzy on what was really there originally... Yes sir, there sure is a Grote number....and a Ford logo right next to it. Ignore the grungy appearance and paint over spray all over everything. The truck needs a paint job badly. They do not have the bottom lens on either side. Just solid black plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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