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Then it's not fuel.

"High mileage" oil doesn't really mean anything except it might have a bit more detergent to loosen up deposits.

But you said your engine is clean as a whistle (as is mine, that's been in for 16 years)

This is an interesting thread

https://www.460ford.com/threads/oil-consumption.250503/

If it is valve guides, won't a high mileage oil or an additive help swell those up a bit ?

Even at the current rate, I am not all that paranoid honestly. I ran my 84 Bronco that way for a while. Same animal. Had textbook compression but used oil. If I can reduce the consumption to quart/1000 miles that would be wonderful. I'd be as good as some of those mid-2000s Toyota Camrys :nabble_head-rotfl-57x22_orig:

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This is an interesting thread

https://www.460ford.com/threads/oil-consumption.250503/

If it is valve guides, won't a high mileage oil or an additive help swell those up a bit ?

Even at the current rate, I am not all that paranoid honestly. I ran my 84 Bronco that way for a while. Same animal. Had textbook compression but used oil. If I can reduce the consumption to quart/1000 miles that would be wonderful. I'd be as good as some of those mid-2000s Toyota Camrys :nabble_head-rotfl-57x22_orig:

If you can show me an oil that swells brass and iron I'd be most interested. 🤔

If you're talking about the seals ON the valve guides, you may as well just pour a cup of brake fluid in there. (but know, it's going to destroy the pan, valve cover, front and rear main gaskets while it's working it's magic)

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If you can show me an oil that swells brass and iron I'd be most interested. 🤔

If you're talking about the seals ON the valve guides, you may as well just pour a cup of brake fluid in there. (but know, it's going to destroy the pan, valve cover, front and rear main gaskets while it's working it's magic)

That’s why I like these discussions Jim. From what I can see the valve stem seals are Nylon or PTFE or Nitrile Rubber. I have no hopes of swelling it if it’s the first 2… nitrile rubber… maybe

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That’s why I like these discussions Jim. From what I can see the valve stem seals are Nylon or PTFE or Nitrile Rubber. I have no hopes of swelling it if it’s the first 2… nitrile rubber… maybe

Here is a Cold start video after sitting for 24-48 hours.

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I like the blue umbrella seals. 🙂

Jim, I don't think I have the time or willpower to do the seals.... maybe try a hail mary with a high mileage oil or a treatment first..... the bronco is also a "mall crawler" :nabble_smiley_wink: Probably a 1-2K mile/year vehicle.... if the trans or something croaks out in the future after extended use... that might be a good reason to get in and address the seals.....

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Jim, I don't think I have the time or willpower to do the seals.... maybe try a hail mary with a high mileage oil or a treatment first..... the bronco is also a "mall crawler" :nabble_smiley_wink: Probably a 1-2K mile/year vehicle.... if the trans or something croaks out in the future after extended use... that might be a good reason to get in and address the seals.....

OK out of curiosity I found odometer reading since 1997 on source truck from TX state inspection records.

No service records ever.

Emissions passing up to 2009... only safety after that

Odometer copy/paste below. Indicates it was used very infrequently a lot of years. Short trips. Spikes in use around 2005 when it changed ownership.

1997 - 28231

1998 - 30281

1999 - 33371

2000 - 36276

2001 - 39625

2002 - 42294

2003 - 45441

2004 - 49566

2005 - 53788

2006 - 61780

2007 - 68902

2008 - 76272

2009 - 79727

2010 - 115058 (probably error)

2011 - 81034

2012 - 82621

2013 - 83931

2014 - 86549

2016 - 89913

2017 - 90956

2018 - 91427

2019 - 92010

2020 - 92424

2021 - 92685

2022 - 93139

2023 - 93724

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OK out of curiosity I found odometer reading since 1997 on source truck from TX state inspection records.

No service records ever.

Emissions passing up to 2009... only safety after that

Odometer copy/paste below. Indicates it was used very infrequently a lot of years. Short trips. Spikes in use around 2005 when it changed ownership.

1997 - 28231

1998 - 30281

1999 - 33371

2000 - 36276

2001 - 39625

2002 - 42294

2003 - 45441

2004 - 49566

2005 - 53788

2006 - 61780

2007 - 68902

2008 - 76272

2009 - 79727

2010 - 115058 (probably error)

2011 - 81034

2012 - 82621

2013 - 83931

2014 - 86549

2016 - 89913

2017 - 90956

2018 - 91427

2019 - 92010

2020 - 92424

2021 - 92685

2022 - 93139

2023 - 93724

I think I found something interesting on the 460 Rebuild book. I dealt with valve cover bolt leaks in this build running onto the exhaust manifold side and causing smoking. The leaks didn’t quit until I used ultra black on the threads… I didn't do it on all the bolts... apparently 4 of those bolts run into the intake ports!!!

I did not think about the bolts that run into the intake !!!

Have I found my “Smoking gun” potentially ?? :nabble_smiley_teeth:

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I think I found something interesting on the 460 Rebuild book. I dealt with valve cover bolt leaks in this build running onto the exhaust manifold side and causing smoking. The leaks didn’t quit until I used ultra black on the threads… I didn't do it on all the bolts... apparently 4 of those bolts run into the intake ports!!!

I did not think about the bolts that run into the intake !!!

Have I found my “Smoking gun” potentially ?? :nabble_smiley_teeth:

I would try PST.

It's rated for the temp.

I have OMC cast valve covers and red silicone gaskets

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