ArdWrknTrk Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Me? Concour points? They start with each vehicle at 100 and then take away for non-stock parts. My guess is Big Blue's score would be -100. Seriously though, I just want a paint that "disappears" in the overall scheme. So flat is out as it wasn't used and would look odd. Obviously high-gloss is out, both because it wasn't used for these kinds of things as well as it points out all the flaws, and there are plenty. So a satin or matte is about right as I don't remember seeing eggshell in exterior paints. I know this is for interior house paints, but Kilz says these are the finishes, in order of decreasing sheen: • High Gloss: A highly reflective, glass-like finish that’s most durable and easiest to clean. • Semi-Gloss: A sleek and luminous finish that is mildew, moisture, and wear resistant. • Satin: A pearl-like finish that’s easy to clean and has moderate durability. • Eggshell: A soft, velvety finish that covers imperfections while offering some durability. • Matte: A low-luster finish that’s less durable, but easy to clean, touches up well, and hides minor surface imperfections. • Flat: A non-reflective finish that touches up well and can hide minor surface imperfections. From someone who knows colour, chroma and sheen, believe me, any chart like that can get nailed to the back of the outhouse door. No two manufacturers are the same. No two lines of paint by the same manufacturer are the same. And definitely no two different products (interior v/ exterior, waterborne v/ solvent v/ modified emulsion Just choose something you like and go with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 11 Author Share Posted February 11 Just choose something you like and go with it That's the plan. Not sure I even have the POR-15. So I'll need to check out what I have and get what's needed. Then I'll have to scuff the goody out of that platform to get the old paint off and give the POR something to hold onto. Lotsa work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Just choose something you like and go with it That's the plan. Not sure I even have the POR-15. So I'll need to check out what I have and get what's needed. Then I'll have to scuff the goody out of that platform to get the old paint off and give the POR something to hold onto. Lotsa work. I finally tried that stuff,and honestly I'm not too impressed. In it's intended use case (consolidating dry light rust), with a single coat, under a couple of opaque top coats..... Yeah, it's serviceable and works well enough. It is definitely not easy to apply by brush, or clean up, dries super slow, and you can't really spray it without contaminating EVERYTHING . It also doesn't seem to offer a whole lot better performance than other products that are for painting rusty metal. As a "regular" primer or undercoat, it falls short IMHO But that's MY opinion. I'm definitely not trying to tell anyone else not to use it. edit, for clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Is this what you are talking about? I haven't seen one of those since I retired. I actually have an award for what is called an "opportunity for improvement" or OFI in conjunction with the General Foreman of NNS X36 (riggers) department. His idea was to use them with a welded on J shaped tube as hangers for temporary air and power on board ships either under construction or repair. Previous method welded the J piece to the structure and after use cut off, weld ground down and repainted. The new design is reusable and only needs the clamp screw loosened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I haven't seen one of those since I retired. I actually have an award for what is called an "opportunity for improvement" or OFI in conjunction with the General Foreman of NNS X36 (riggers) department. His idea was to use them with a welded on J shaped tube as hangers for temporary air and power on board ships either under construction or repair. Previous method welded the J piece to the structure and after use cut off, weld ground down and repainted. The new design is reusable and only needs the clamp screw loosened. "opportunity for improvement" meant an ENTIRELY different thing to us... 😄 (You screwed up! NOW FIX IT!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 "opportunity for improvement" meant an ENTIRELY different thing to us... 😄 (You screwed up! NOW FIX IT!) Back in the day, we would use self etching zinc chromate on rust, but that stuff's not ONLY cancerous in CA... Today there is zinc phosphate, and while it doesn't have quite all the anti corrosion of chrome, it isn't fatal either. Just remember the 7 P's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 11 Author Share Posted February 11 Back in the day, we would use self etching zinc chromate on rust, but that stuff's not ONLY cancerous in CA... Today there is zinc phosphate, and while it doesn't have quite all the anti corrosion of chrome, it isn't fatal either. Just remember the 7 P's The Conoco joke is that a guy from a pumping station on a pipeline called in and said "Boss, we have a problem." The boss said "There are no problems, there are just opportunities for improvement. Please use that terminology when you call me" To which the pumper said "Boss, we have a major opportunity for improvement. The pipe split and we are pumping lube all over the place!" So "opportunity for improvement" is Conoco-speak for "We have a PROBLEM!" As for the 7 P's, are they "preparation, preparation, preparation, preparation, preparation, preparation, & preparation"? And a spray primer would sure make it easier. So that stuff sticks well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 The Conoco joke is that a guy from a pumping station on a pipeline called in and said "Boss, we have a problem." The boss said "There are no problems, there are just opportunities for improvement. Please use that terminology when you call me" To which the pumper said "Boss, we have a major opportunity for improvement. The pipe split and we are pumping lube all over the place!" So "opportunity for improvement" is Conoco-speak for "We have a PROBLEM!" As for the 7 P's, are they "preparation, preparation, preparation, preparation, preparation, preparation, & preparation"? And a spray primer would sure make it easier. So that stuff sticks well? Um..... not quite! Self etching primers are acid catalysed and actually burn their way into the metal's surface. Yeah, they tend to 'stick well' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Um..... not quite! Self etching primers are acid catalysed and actually burn their way into the metal's surface. Yeah, they tend to 'stick well' - deleted - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 11 Author Share Posted February 11 - deleted - Ok, I get the picture. So maybe we don’t need the picture? 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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