Nickelplate Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 FRPP for a damned oil filter is a hard NO for me! $43 retail and 28 at Walmart??? https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ford-Performance-Parts-CM-6731-FL1A-High-Performance-Oil-Filter/181993123?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0 "Please put down the crack pipe, sir" I bulk ordered Motorcraft FL1A filters a year or so ago and I still have 10 or so. I was changing filters pretty often due to a lot of long road trips. Luckily they are the good old style. I also sometimes will use an FL-299, which is the longer Fl1A. Those used to be super cheap, and now they are like $15+. Sad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdude747 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 I pretty much just use Wix 51515 now (Napa 1515), but was a die-hard FL1A guy for most of my life. I still have at least one full case of FL1As I got back in the mid-90s on the garage shelf. I'm loathe to use them, though, as I'm not sure how much they'd break down in a burning hot and freezing cold shop over 25+ years. Come to think of it, I also have an NOS 90's FL-1A sitting somewhere. $2 Goodwill find... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Sounds about right. How long has it been since you bought a battery? Lead batteries are almost always recycled, to the point that we aren't tearing mountains down and towns like Galena are out of work (see Leadville,CO) It's amazing to think that in my lifetime a filthy poisonous industry like this has all but disappeared in my country. 🤯 Battery prices keep climbing, but that's the cost of inflation, more profit to the manufacturer and sane environmental regulation that keeps us from poisoning our water and children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordFETruck Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 The Motorcraft filters were made by Purolator for a long time, now they're made by Mann-Hummel from what I've been reading. I stopped using the Motorcraft oil filters after cutting a number of them open with an oil filter cutter. Really wavy pleats, inconsistent pleat spacing, one FL-820S I cut open the metal end cap just fell right off the filter pulling the element out of the can. That was the last one I used. I've been using Wix, some Fram ultra here and there and a lot of Protec WIX off Rockauto with good results since. I've cut a lot of those Protec WIX filters open; they've all had good construction. The Champ labs Supertech filters are not bad either. I didn't have any respect for the E core filters until I took one off my coworkers van that went 16,000 miles and the filter held up fine although the filter seal had flattened out badly. Needless to say, I'd use those with confidence now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrl883 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Yup I bought the last of the Motorcraft from Walmart around here. Wix/NAPA now. Motorcraft forgeries have been a thing for quite a few years. I've had a discussion with Gary about this, here on the forum before. Maybe Myrl has some insight from the dealers parts counter? After 36 years, I ran away from Ford, and am now selling Freightliner parts. In 2021, when I was last at ford, all of their filters were still made by Purolator. We hadn't seen the filters with fluted housings in years. Even the trusty old FL1A had flats around the top. I'm assuming because that's how most of the filter wrenches are shaped. But, I've noticed the pricing of late - it IS ridiculous! I've gone to Wix for my FL1A applications, and Fleetguard for the wife's 4.6 Explorer. If you guys like Wix filters, surprisingly, Home Depot has the best prices! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 After 36 years, I ran away from Ford, and am now selling Freightliner parts. In 2021, when I was last at ford, all of their filters were still made by Purolator. We hadn't seen the filters with fluted housings in years. Even the trusty old FL1A had flats around the top. I'm assuming because that's how most of the filter wrenches are shaped. But, I've noticed the pricing of late - it IS ridiculous! I've gone to Wix for my FL1A applications, and Fleetguard for the wife's 4.6 Explorer. If you guys like Wix filters, surprisingly, Home Depot has the best prices! Thanks for the insight Myrl! I had no idea about Cheapo Depot! 🤯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat in tn Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 Thanks for the insight Myrl! I had no idea about Cheapo Depot! 🤯 just another possible quirk. or another mystery. yesterday morning. on the first start of the day after driving 500 miles hwy, on the latest new fl1a, as soon as I started the truck it did not make any dry noises yet there was a new sound that I have not heard before. on any vehicle. imagine the sound from holding a blade of grass between your thumbs as a reed and blowing through like a whistle. yes, I grew up outside and without devices. it makes a very loud vibrato whistle. my engine made this sound. I had good oil pressure and no other odd noises, so it ran for a minute before I shut it off. has not done it again. my imagination has me thinking it was the flat seal in the oil filter. I have no reference for anything in there to do this. why did it once? why did it stop? what does it mean? who is john galt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 just another possible quirk. or another mystery. yesterday morning. on the first start of the day after driving 500 miles hwy, on the latest new fl1a, as soon as I started the truck it did not make any dry noises yet there was a new sound that I have not heard before. on any vehicle. imagine the sound from holding a blade of grass between your thumbs as a reed and blowing through like a whistle. yes, I grew up outside and without devices. it makes a very loud vibrato whistle. my engine made this sound. I had good oil pressure and no other odd noises, so it ran for a minute before I shut it off. has not done it again. my imagination has me thinking it was the flat seal in the oil filter. I have no reference for anything in there to do this. why did it once? why did it stop? what does it mean? who is john galt? I know that "Reeeeee" well! Quite perplexing. You wouldn't think something as vicious as oil could reach a pitch that high. But I suppose if there's enough pressure.... ***I've had hydraulic lines 'scream' when they rupture. Roll with it, the answer will come, you're very observant and know these trucks well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat in tn Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 I know that "Reeeeee" well! Quite perplexing. You wouldn't think something as vicious as oil could reach a pitch that high. But I suppose if there's enough pressure.... ***I've had hydraulic lines 'scream' when they rupture. Roll with it, the answer will come, you're very observant and know these trucks well I always told customers that I have to find it to fix it. sometimes you have to catch it in the act when it comes and goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I always told customers that I have to find it to fix it. sometimes you have to catch it in the act when it comes and goes. My brother's Altima is a prime example! It's really hard to catch an electron misbehaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts