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I work all night.

I try to help people if I'm slow and not out on a call.

Believe me looking up parts and diagrams is a respite from tedious hours of sitting in a tow truck.

Do you know if you have the standard or heavy duty air filter housing?

I'm trying to get my truck back together today as it's the only dry weather I've seen all week and it's supposed to start raining @ 1am through to Monday, so I might not get right back to you, but I am thinking on it.....

Thanks Jim, get back to me any time. Your help is greatly appreciated. The carb had a very small amount of black powder substance in the carb screw-in filter. I cut the filter open and the fiber inside had separated from the housing and the powder was bypassing to carb. The amount bypassing so small, you could barely see it. Replaced it with a clear plastic filter. Replaced needle and seat valve at float anyway. The powder may be coming from a new hose breaking down? Everything in fuel system is new. It may be that the fuel pump being at 7 psi, the powder causing the needle valve to stick and too much heat to carb by the air cleaner and or EGR was causing the carb to flood. That’s why I want the parts for these systems working correctly.Thanks again,CJ

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I work all night.

I try to help people if I'm slow and not out on a call.

Believe me looking up parts and diagrams is a respite from tedious hours of sitting in a tow truck.

Do you know if you have the standard or heavy duty air filter housing?

I'm trying to get my truck back together today as it's the only dry weather I've seen all week and it's supposed to start raining @ 1am through to Monday, so I might not get right back to you, but I am thinking on it.....

Forgot, Jim, I believe it’s a standard air cleaner, being a F150, 2w/d, six. CJ

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Thanks Jim, get back to me any time. Your help is greatly appreciated. The carb had a very small amount of black powder substance in the carb screw-in filter. I cut the filter open and the fiber inside had separated from the housing and the powder was bypassing to carb. The amount bypassing so small, you could barely see it. Replaced it with a clear plastic filter. Replaced needle and seat valve at float anyway. The powder may be coming from a new hose breaking down? Everything in fuel system is new. It may be that the fuel pump being at 7 psi, the powder causing the needle valve to stick and too much heat to carb by the air cleaner and or EGR was causing the carb to flood. That’s why I want the parts for these systems working correctly.Thanks again,CJ

Jim, here is EGR system I was looking at. CJ6E63B922-ACCC-49D4-8484-98662495052B.png.2f13e355d808bb5d0d7fc1142851aeff.png

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Jim, here is EGR system I was looking at. CJ

Right CJ. :nabble_smiley_good:

EGR should only be operating with the engine fully warmed up, and only under high vacuum (cruise) conditions.

You want it to go away under WOT.

It's been busy so far.

Hope I get some time closer to daybreak

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Jim, here is EGR system I was looking at. CJ

CJ I'm trying to put this together.

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9601....

Standard air filter: FA-574-R https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/motorcraft,FA574R,air+filter,6192

Extra: FA-732. = Purolator A40124

Severe Duty/ Off Road: FA-1051 inner, FA-1052 outer

Vacuum motor, snorkel: 9d612 aka CX-120. https://www.ebay.com/itm/165712399328

Check valve: d7fz-9e607-b. aka CX-122 https://pittauto.com/item/FOR%20D7FZ9E607B

Check/delay: 9e897a coded red/white, AKA D0AZ-9E897-B

2-port CX-1368: thermal vacuum switch aka D3TZ-9D473-B. https://www.ebay.com/p/1339945359?iid=275506278121

Vacuum control, side of air cleaner: d5az9a995a. https://www.ebay.com/p/1822655208

I can't find the checks in partsvoice or rear counter.

I will try other methods later.....

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CJ I'm trying to put this together.

I may edit/add numbers

9601....

Standard air filter: FA-574-R https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/motorcraft,FA574R,air+filter,6192

Extra: FA-732. = Purolator A40124

Severe Duty/ Off Road: FA-1051 inner, FA-1052 outer

Vacuum motor, snorkel: 9d612 aka CX-120. https://www.ebay.com/itm/165712399328

Check valve: d7fz-9e607-b. aka CX-122 https://pittauto.com/item/FOR%20D7FZ9E607B

Check/delay: 9e897a coded red/white, AKA D0AZ-9E897-B

2-port CX-1368: thermal vacuum switch aka D3TZ-9D473-B. https://www.ebay.com/p/1339945359?iid=275506278121

Vacuum control, side of air cleaner: d5az9a995a. https://www.ebay.com/p/1822655208

I can't find the checks in partsvoice or rear counter.

I will try other methods later.....

The OEM ductwork, for anyone who wants to know...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324241723475

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256323306848

 

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I don't like cutting the steel line, either. So I'd consider using a rubber hose from the pump to the carb and put both the regulator as well as a paper filter in there.

But you may have a problem finding a fitting that works in the pump. That's a flared fitting in the pump and finding a flare to hose-barb fitting isn't easy. If you can't find that you could use a flared fitting and a short piece of flared line. If you are doing the flaring put a little bit of flare on the end going to the carb so the line can't slide off.

I forgot to mention, Ace Hardware had the inverted flare fittings for fuel pump to carb line. CJ

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CJ I'm trying to put this together.

I may edit/add numbers

9601....

Standard air filter: FA-574-R https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/motorcraft,FA574R,air+filter,6192

Extra: FA-732. = Purolator A40124

Severe Duty/ Off Road: FA-1051 inner, FA-1052 outer

Vacuum motor, snorkel: 9d612 aka CX-120. https://www.ebay.com/itm/165712399328

Check valve: d7fz-9e607-b. aka CX-122 https://pittauto.com/item/FOR%20D7FZ9E607B

Check/delay: 9e897a coded red/white, AKA D0AZ-9E897-B

2-port CX-1368: thermal vacuum switch aka D3TZ-9D473-B. https://www.ebay.com/p/1339945359?iid=275506278121

Vacuum control, side of air cleaner: d5az9a995a. https://www.ebay.com/p/1822655208

I can't find the checks in partsvoice or rear counter.

I will try other methods later.....

Jim, can you find part # for egr valve, 85 f150 4.9 l, s/b carb, auto trans, l/B, XL, red and white, chrome bumpers and white lettered cooper tires.:nabble_smiley_happy: CJ

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Jim, can you find part # for egr valve, 85 f150 4.9 l, s/b carb, auto trans, l/B, XL, red and white, chrome bumpers and white lettered cooper tires.:nabble_smiley_happy: CJ

You might be the best one to figure out what parts you need. Let me walk you through how to do that.

Go to Documentation/Calibration Info & Part Numbers and then the Application To Parts List tab. Scroll down to Page 33, which is where the 1985 4.9L's show up. There you'll see the list of applications, meaning which trucks, transmissions, 2wd or 4wd, California or High Altitude, etc. Find the listing(s) that fit yours and note the Parts List Number.

Then scroll back to the tabs and click on the Parts Lists tab and scroll down until you find your Parts List Number. There is everything known to man about the specific emissions parts for your truck.

Lets assume yours is #430. Here's the parts list for it:

Parts_List_430.thumb.jpg.aa2e0f23b2d19e8d0d7640599f0979e1.jpg

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