CDLong Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 Thanks Matt. I found the article on hock bolts. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1307036-dads-frame-and-suspension.html I'll remove the wheel & tire today and start lookin'. Back to square one, my frame has rivets. I assume I can put a jack stand under the driver's side frame rail and have someone turn the steering wheel to see if I can find the issue? The tire is still on the passenger's side or do I need to remount the driver's side tire? Got some pics. I have outlined what might be a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat in tn Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Back to square one, my frame has rivets. I assume I can put a jack stand under the driver's side frame rail and have someone turn the steering wheel to see if I can find the issue? The tire is still on the passenger's side or do I need to remount the driver's side tire? Got some pics. I have outlined what might be a problem? in the first pic it looks to be a cracked frame. I need to go look under one in the shop to see about the seams in that area to compare. the steering gear area is boxed with two halves riveted and welded in some spots with a crush support between that the three gear box bolts go through. right behind there is where some crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDLong Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 in the first pic it looks to be a cracked frame. I need to go look under one in the shop to see about the seams in that area to compare. the steering gear area is boxed with two halves riveted and welded in some spots with a crush support between that the three gear box bolts go through. right behind there is where some crack. Ok Matt. I'll try yo get better pics of that area. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDLong Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 in the first pic it looks to be a cracked frame. I need to go look under one in the shop to see about the seams in that area to compare. the steering gear area is boxed with two halves riveted and welded in some spots with a crush support between that the three gear box bolts go through. right behind there is where some crack. Control arm is moving up & down? I have a video but can't load it? MP4 file. I tried to email it to you but the email won't send. Ain't my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat in tn Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 in the first pic it looks to be a cracked frame. I need to go look under one in the shop to see about the seams in that area to compare. the steering gear area is boxed with two halves riveted and welded in some spots with a crush support between that the three gear box bolts go through. right behind there is where some crack. Control arm is moving up & down? I have a video but can't load it? MP4 file. I tried to email it to you but the email won't send. Ain't my day. what are you calling a control arm? twin traction beams don't have them? there are radius arms that hold the ttb fore and aft and then there is a pitman arm mounted to the steering gear to tie to the drag link. are you seeing the pitman arm flex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDLong Posted April 10 Author Share Posted April 10 what are you calling a control arm? twin traction beams don't have them? there are radius arms that hold the ttb fore and aft and then there is a pitman arm mounted to the steering gear to tie to the drag link. are you seeing the pitman arm flex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDLong Posted April 10 Author Share Posted April 10 Back to square one, my frame has rivets. I assume I can put a jack stand under the driver's side frame rail and have someone turn the steering wheel to see if I can find the issue? The tire is still on the passenger's side or do I need to remount the driver's side tire? Got some pics. I have outlined what might be a problem?https://forum.garysgaragemahal.com/file/n151259/20240408_090201.jpghttps://forum.garysgaragemahal.com/file/n151259/20240408_090306.jpghttps://forum.garysgaragemahal.com/file/n151259/20240409_104845.jpghttps://forum.garysgaragemahal.com/file/n151259/20240409_104849.jpg The first picture in more detail. No crack, metal over;apping metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 what are you calling a control arm? twin traction beams don't have them? there are radius arms that hold the ttb fore and aft and then there is a pitman arm mounted to the steering gear to tie to the drag link. are you seeing the pitman arm flex? That's a radius arm bushing and bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDLong Posted April 10 Author Share Posted April 10 That's a radius arm bushing and bracket. Thanks Jim, is it supposed to move like it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 That's a radius arm bushing and bracket. Thanks Jim, is it supposed to move like it is? My 460 4wd uses leaf springs to locate the front TTB, but I would say NO it is not meant to be sloppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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