IowaTom Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 When I bought my truck, the headliner was hanging down and I carefully removed it to find there was only fabric and a thin foam backing up there; no board, just steel ceiling. I've saved the fabric/foam piece and am open to ideas for what to use as a stiff backing for it. Right now living in the PNW but might move to TN - a warmer climate - in the future. I see there's a pre-cut plastic piece I can buy that ain't cheap and I'm thinkin' it soften up if the truck eventually sits out in the sun. ?? I was looking at foam board at my local HDeepo which is about $10 for a 4X8 rectumtangle. Foil-faced styro that would be easy enough to work with but maybe too thick. Cardboard, maybe? Luan? Looks like I cut it bigger than the fabric/foam to fit under trim. Any ideas would be great, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 The ones I have are cardboard. They seem to hold up fine, but you could easily put a layer of sound deadening and then foam insulation on the inside of the cab before installing the headliner. I used Noico sound deadener and insulation on Big Blue and it seems to have worked well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBrother-84 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Big Brother´s vault was dangling down on our heads. The fabric was delaminating from the rigid cardboard. I found a new fabric (with similar foamy layer behind) and replaced the fabric, keeping the original cardboard. I don't understand how your headliner was installed, only a fabric directly on the metal ceiling? I am curious if you have a picture about this installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat in tn Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Big Brother´s vault was dangling down on our heads. The fabric was delaminating from the rigid cardboard. I found a new fabric (with similar foamy layer behind) and replaced the fabric, keeping the original cardboard. I don't understand how your headliner was installed, only a fabric directly on the metal ceiling? I am curious if you have a picture about this installation. if it was glue to the steel then I wonder a couple things. what trim level is the truck? xlt would have all surrounding moldings to hold the fiberboard headliner in place. custom or xl would not usually. if it does not or never has had all the trims then there are no clip slots cut for them. meaning drilling for trim screws to put them on, for the side pieces at least. second. since you mentioned it, TN? where? it's definitely warmer. I have been roasting there. wanna buy a house:nabble_head-rotfl-57x22_orig: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaTom Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 if it was glue to the steel then I wonder a couple things. what trim level is the truck? xlt would have all surrounding moldings to hold the fiberboard headliner in place. custom or xl would not usually. if it does not or never has had all the trims then there are no clip slots cut for them. meaning drilling for trim screws to put them on, for the side pieces at least. second. since you mentioned it, TN? where? it's definitely warmer. I have been roasting there. wanna buy a house:nabble_head-rotfl-57x22_orig: Thank you, Guys. I don't think it was glued to the steel, but then, why would someone remove the board the fabric was originally glued to then replace a droopy headliner? Wouldn't I see evidence of glue on the cab's ceiling? The foam backing the fabric seems all there. Weird. My F150 is an XLT. Gary if you say cardboard works okay I'll use it and yes, I was thinking about plastering the ceiling with a dynamat-type product first and the Noico looks good. Mat, not sure where in TN but probably eastern, nearer Knoxville. I have a sis in NC, a son & family in GA and it looks like more family will be moving that way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Thank you, Guys. I don't think it was glued to the steel, but then, why would someone remove the board the fabric was originally glued to then replace a droopy headliner? Wouldn't I see evidence of glue on the cab's ceiling? The foam backing the fabric seems all there. Weird. My F150 is an XLT. Gary if you say cardboard works okay I'll use it and yes, I was thinking about plastering the ceiling with a dynamat-type product first and the Noico looks good. Mat, not sure where in TN but probably eastern, nearer Knoxville. I have a sis in NC, a son & family in GA and it looks like more family will be moving that way too. I think all of the originals were on cardboard. And there's plenty of room to add sound deadener and insulation up there. Go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat in tn Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I think all of the originals were on cardboard. And there's plenty of room to add sound deadener and insulation up there. Go for it. we just moved to central NC from mid TN. still unpacking.! the backbone so to speak of the headliner is a slightly domed cardboard/ fiber board panel. later vehicles use a very loose fiberglass type panel. doing a headliner is very much like hanging wallpaper. it's something you may do easily or stressfully depending on the individual. many fabric stores carry headliner fabric which has the foam backer made on it and also sell headliner adhesive. I used Joann fabrics in Nashville, but they only stocked beige, gray or black. lmc sells a plastic backer panel which may be a great option for you but given its size they will charge an oversized item fee, I'm sure. but being an xlt , you should have all of the trim to "frame" it in and hold it in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdude747 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 we just moved to central NC from mid TN. still unpacking.! the backbone so to speak of the headliner is a slightly domed cardboard/ fiber board panel. later vehicles use a very loose fiberglass type panel. doing a headliner is very much like hanging wallpaper. it's something you may do easily or stressfully depending on the individual. many fabric stores carry headliner fabric which has the foam backer made on it and also sell headliner adhesive. I used Joann fabrics in Nashville, but they only stocked beige, gray or black. lmc sells a plastic backer panel which may be a great option for you but given its size they will charge an oversized item fee, I'm sure. but being an xlt , you should have all of the trim to "frame" it in and hold it in place. Here's a thread from last year where I redid my headliner (and where I bought my supplies): https://forum.garysgaragemahal.com/Headliners-repair-or-replace-tp96707p103291.html It was cardboard backed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaTom Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 Here's a thread from last year where I redid my headliner (and where I bought my supplies): https://forum.garysgaragemahal.com/Headliners-repair-or-replace-tp96707p103291.html It was cardboard backed... Magnificent job! Thank you for posting that. Pictures really do make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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