RenoHuskerDu Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Guy is selling it locally. It will carry 1500-2000 gallons of water, which is my interest. Fight grass fires and wet down road base to compact it. This truck was used by the USAF to deice airplane wings. The boom has been deactivated in a brutal fashion, they just sawed the control box and wires off. I doubt I'd get that working again. But it looks like I could put a gas pony motor on that pump pulley, and use the water pump. One water tank is 1500 gallons and the 2nd is marked "foam" for 500 gallons. If it were a fire truck, foam would make sense to me, I'm a fireman. But foam for deicing wings??? I guess I have a lot to learn. Has anyone ever worked on one of these? It has a 500 cid Detroit, 3spd auto tranny, and 2spd rear. I found one site that could look up the VIN, but very little info other than basics for incomplete vehicle https://www.fordvinlookup.com/C800/1985/1FDRD84N4FVA48978/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 That's a monster! What originally drove the pump? A PTO shaft? Why can't it be used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoHuskerDu Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 That's a monster! What originally drove the pump? A PTO shaft? Why can't it be used? The pump was driven by a 4cyl pony motor, says the seller, and the USAF took it off. Once I lay eyes on it, I'll see if it has a PTO anywhere. I have received several cautions that the 4-stroke 8.2 liter Detroit is quirky and impossible to find parts for. The 2-strokes are more widely available for parts trucks, but also obsolete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat in tn Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 The pump was driven by a 4cyl pony motor, says the seller, and the USAF took it off. Once I lay eyes on it, I'll see if it has a PTO anywhere. I have received several cautions that the 4-stroke 8.2 liter Detroit is quirky and impossible to find parts for. The 2-strokes are more widely available for parts trucks, but also obsolete. that is a super cool truck. I'm already thinking power stroke and a piggyback bed for a vintage race car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 The pump was driven by a 4cyl pony motor, says the seller, and the USAF took it off. Once I lay eyes on it, I'll see if it has a PTO anywhere. I have received several cautions that the 4-stroke 8.2 liter Detroit is quirky and impossible to find parts for. The 2-strokes are more widely available for parts trucks, but also obsolete. I suspect that that is a Toroflow Detroit Diesel. I worked on them in the 60s at Superior GMC in Norfolk VA. I think I remember them having a Bosch style injection pump. 8.2L, is it a 6 or V8? Thought would be swap in a Cat as most of those bigger Diesels used an SAE standardized clutch housing and mounting system. At least it isn't a Perkins in it. A 3 speed automatic doesn't sound completely right to me, I would have expected an Allison, usually 6 speed beast, normally uses the top 4 and has a lock up converter. Here is a link to manuals on it: https://barringtondieselclub.co.za/detroit/8.2-liter-detroit-diesel.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoHuskerDu Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 I suspect that that is a Toroflow Detroit Diesel. I worked on them in the 60s at Superior GMC in Norfolk VA. I think I remember them having a Bosch style injection pump. 8.2L, is it a 6 or V8? Thought would be swap in a Cat as most of those bigger Diesels used an SAE standardized clutch housing and mounting system. At least it isn't a Perkins in it. A 3 speed automatic doesn't sound completely right to me, I would have expected an Allison, usually 6 speed beast, normally uses the top 4 and has a lock up converter. Here is a link to manuals on it: https://barringtondieselclub.co.za/detroit/8.2-liter-detroit-diesel.html Yes, the seller says it's an Allison tranny. But 3 spd, which I agree is odd. It does start and run, and has less than 5k miles on it, all roaming around some USAF airport(s). Top speed is 40 mph. Those guys at Barrington Diesel want $65 to download the manuals. It was too good to be true ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Yes, the seller says it's an Allison tranny. But 3 spd, which I agree is odd. It does start and run, and has less than 5k miles on it, all roaming around some USAF airport(s). Top speed is 40 mph. Those guys at Barrington Diesel want $65 to download the manuals. It was too good to be true ... I agree, if it had been cheaper I would have just done it to have them and shared them with you. Found an engine manual for $24.99: https://mypowermanual.com/shop/detroit-diesel/detroit-8-2l-fuel-pincher-diesel-engine-service-manual/ I am still drawing a blank on the transmission however, all I am coming up with are 4 - 6 speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoHuskerDu Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 I agree, if it had been cheaper I would have just done it to have them and shared them with you. Found an engine manual for $24.99: https://mypowermanual.com/shop/detroit-diesel/detroit-8-2l-fuel-pincher-diesel-engine-service-manual/ I am still drawing a blank on the transmission however, all I am coming up with are 4 - 6 speeds. On the heavy equipment forum I got a lot of info. That C series has a low radiator that collects grass etc if run off road. Add that to a cooling system that is only merely adequate on road, and you get overheating. The 4-stroke Detroit 8.2 Fuel Squeezer is quirky, for example it runs three different injector settings depending on which cylinder, and parts are basically unobtanium now. Parts trucks needed. So I told the seller that I'll pass. Still looking for a dedicated fire truck, or even a tank trailer setup. https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/threads/crazy-old-usaf-truck-for-sale-could-be-my-water-truck.95430/#post-1057387 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 On the heavy equipment forum I got a lot of info. That C series has a low radiator that collects grass etc if run off road. Add that to a cooling system that is only merely adequate on road, and you get overheating. The 4-stroke Detroit 8.2 Fuel Squeezer is quirky, for example it runs three different injector settings depending on which cylinder, and parts are basically unobtanium now. Parts trucks needed. So I told the seller that I'll pass. Still looking for a dedicated fire truck, or even a tank trailer setup. https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/threads/crazy-old-usaf-truck-for-sale-could-be-my-water-truck.95430/#post-1057387 I can't say I blame you. I am probably one of the few people who even knew what the engine was let alone worked on one. Good luck in your search! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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