Gary Lewis Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 I'm thinking about maybe having a couple of new folders and would like your input, please: Tools To Loan Or Clone: This could be in the Garage/Shop & Tools folder and would be a place to post offers like Pete's offer to loan his spindle puller. But it could also be to show people how we make tools that work as it might easier/cheaper to make Pete's puller than ship it. However, I don't think we'll want to be loaning tools to people we don't know, meaning a rank newbie that signed up just to borrow the tool. So we might post at the top of the folder "These tools are to be loaned at the member's discretion, but a suggested guideline would be not to loan to a member w/o at least 100 posts over a year's time." (You can easily see a member's post count below their avatar, and clicking on their screen name will show you when they joined.) What do y'all think of that? Both the idea of having the folder awa the guideline? Projects To Print: I'm not sure where this one would be, but possibly in the Garage/Shop & Tools folder as well. Or maybe in Resources, although that is a bit of a free-for-all at the moment. Anyway, this would be a place to store files for either 3D printing or cutting out, like for gaskets. We talked about this in January here, and again a few days ago here. But I need some help thinking this through, please. For instance, we want to ensure that files posted there can't be corrupted and harm someone's computer. So do we put a limit on who can post here? I'm not sure how easy that would be to do, but I could be the "poster" if things don't get out of hand and could vet the files. But what do y'all think? Again, I'd like everyone's feedback. Obviously this would be limited to things associated with Bullnose trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Under tools to loan or clone my EEC-IV test equipment. I will even box and ship the breakout box I have as I no longer have a vehicle with an EEC-IV system. The duty speed control tester might also be a good item. I have a fairly good assortment of axle tools for the Dana 44 and the Sterling 10.25" including the seal installer for the revised hub seals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Whitstone Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 I think it's a good idea, this is done on another (non-Ford) forum I am on. I have made several tools for working on my bullnose, that I would be willing to lend out as needed. If you decide to go forward with this, I'll post pictures of the tools and a description of how to use each one. On the other forum, in some cases, the tool is shipped back to the lender after use. In those situations the borrower pay shipping both ways. In other cases, the borrower uses the tool, then holds on to it until the next person requests it. Borrower pays shipping only one way in those cases. It would be up to the original creator/owner of the tool how it is to be passed around, I suppose. In the case of the tools I have made, it is very unlikely I would ever need them again, so if I'm not tripping over them in my shop, I'm fine with that. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBrother-84 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Really good idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taskswap Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 In other cases, the borrower uses the tool, then holds on to it until the next person requests it. Borrower pays shipping only one way in those cases. It would be up to the original creator/owner of the tool how it is to be passed around, I suppose. We used to do that when I was building the Cozy. Certain tools like molds for the wheel fairings were complicated/expensive to make or buy, but were only needed one time. You'd get the wheel fairing molds and if somebody had signed up to have them next, you'd ship them to that person, otherwise back to the owner when you were done. I think it made the most sense for "weird" tools. Like, nobody needs a loaner program for coil spring compressors. They're readily available, there are workarounds (jacking) if you don't have or can't get them, and usually you can find local sources to rent or borrow anyway. Others are so cheap on Amazon you may as well own them if you're serious about maintaining an old truck. But I do have two sets of things that might make sense to put in this category. The first is "door/trim tools". For somebody getting into a reno/restomod there are all those little helpful tools that LMC and others sell: the trim prybar, alignment tool, Torx bit for the door striker, windshield trim removal tool, etc. There are a bunch of little bits like that you really only need once in a project (usually) that would pack up nicely in a small enough box to be reasonable to ship. The second is the engine subsystem stuff, especially cooling. I spent the money on the no-leak radiator funnel kit, the cooling system leak detector, the AC refill manifold gauge set, the vacuum pump for bleeding brakes and other fluid systems, etc. Individually those items are easy to borrow or buy but all together it would be a decent kit for somebody giving a newly acquired bullnose a "once over"... One other suggestion, I've often thought it would be worth letting other folks know about bulk item purchases. I've bought a TON of stuff for Rocky that made no sense to buy a single part for. I have entire kits of U nuts, electrical connectors, screws, bulbs, and all that jazz. In most cases I'll use 2-3 pieces out of a 10- or even 100-pack and the rest just sit in a drawer forevermore. If anybody was ever going elbows-deep in a bullnose project it would be really easy for me to drop a few dozen "you're probably going to need this" hardware items in an envelope for $10-$20 vs. others buying (and wasting) the same kits I bought... Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 In other cases, the borrower uses the tool, then holds on to it until the next person requests it. Borrower pays shipping only one way in those cases. It would be up to the original creator/owner of the tool how it is to be passed around, I suppose. We used to do that when I was building the Cozy. Certain tools like molds for the wheel fairings were complicated/expensive to make or buy, but were only needed one time. You'd get the wheel fairing molds and if somebody had signed up to have them next, you'd ship them to that person, otherwise back to the owner when you were done. I think it made the most sense for "weird" tools. Like, nobody needs a loaner program for coil spring compressors. They're readily available, there are workarounds (jacking) if you don't have or can't get them, and usually you can find local sources to rent or borrow anyway. Others are so cheap on Amazon you may as well own them if you're serious about maintaining an old truck. But I do have two sets of things that might make sense to put in this category. The first is "door/trim tools". For somebody getting into a reno/restomod there are all those little helpful tools that LMC and others sell: the trim prybar, alignment tool, Torx bit for the door striker, windshield trim removal tool, etc. There are a bunch of little bits like that you really only need once in a project (usually) that would pack up nicely in a small enough box to be reasonable to ship. The second is the engine subsystem stuff, especially cooling. I spent the money on the no-leak radiator funnel kit, the cooling system leak detector, the AC refill manifold gauge set, the vacuum pump for bleeding brakes and other fluid systems, etc. Individually those items are easy to borrow or buy but all together it would be a decent kit for somebody giving a newly acquired bullnose a "once over"... One other suggestion, I've often thought it would be worth letting other folks know about bulk item purchases. I've bought a TON of stuff for Rocky that made no sense to buy a single part for. I have entire kits of U nuts, electrical connectors, screws, bulbs, and all that jazz. In most cases I'll use 2-3 pieces out of a 10- or even 100-pack and the rest just sit in a drawer forevermore. If anybody was ever going elbows-deep in a bullnose project it would be really easy for me to drop a few dozen "you're probably going to need this" hardware items in an envelope for $10-$20 vs. others buying (and wasting) the same kits I bought... Any thoughts? Funny you should mention a Cozy, my best friend has 2 of them now, we went up North of Baltimore to pick up the second one. I have a tee shirt with a Cozy coming on the front and going on the back from that trip. He talked about the same thing, the specialized items that get loaned around. He is an IA so gets to see a lot of interesting and occasionally scary stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 Funny you should mention a Cozy, my best friend has 2 of them now, we went up North of Baltimore to pick up the second one. I have a tee shirt with a Cozy coming on the front and going on the back from that trip. He talked about the same thing, the specialized items that get loaned around. He is an IA so gets to see a lot of interesting and occasionally scary stuff. Ok, I'll bite: what is a Cozy? (Other than a cover for a tea pot in the UK.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Whitstone Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Ok, I'll bite: what is a Cozy? (Other than a cover for a tea pot in the UK.) A small personal aircraft I think. The same type that are also called Long-Eze or Vari-Eze. Pusher prop with swept wings in the back and smaller wings (canards I think they are called) in the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 A small personal aircraft I think. The same type that are also called Long-Eze or Vari-Eze. Pusher prop with swept wings in the back and smaller wings (canards I think they are called) in the front. You are correct sir, they are called canards and they are a pusher prop design. One of the excursions my friend and I went on (3 day weekend when we were both still working) involved picking up a very nice 3 blade propeller for his Cozy in Lorraine County Ohio. That was quite a trip, we borrowed a 2003 E250 from my brother (John ended up buying it from him). First stop was at my son's house in Falling Waters WV Friday night. Saturday it was on to Elwood City PA to drop off an extra printer to another friend and pick up a snow blower for my Ford YT16H. From there to Lorraine County Ohio for the prop and then to Findley and my sister's for the night. Sunday after breakfast it was off to Circleville Ohio to John's cousin's just to visit and have a somewhat better starting point for Monday (MLK day). Monday we started South, John picked up the wrong highway not far out of Circleville and after about 45 mins of driving said "I don't think I'm on the right road" so we pulled into a parking lot, fired up his old MacBook and using the location from his iPhone determined we were well East of where we should be, but there wasn't a definite place we could see to pick up I64 to get back to Newport News and York County. Backtrack so we could get on US23 to take us down across the Ohio River into Kentucky, then follow along the river to just before the WV line and pick up I64. Since we were now running 1 1/2 hours late, we ended up stopping in Richmond VA for dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerman5K Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 I like the idea of sharing 3D printing files. I have several 3D printers and would love to have a location where files can be added/downloaded. I would certainly contribute any files I develop to them. I know the average person does not have a 3D printer but most library's now have them for public use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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