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1985F20 SuperCab "REDRUM"


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Made it out to the junkyard today. They had one 83 Bronco that had been stripped pretty clean but it still had the seatbelt receivers and the plastics were in good shape. I tried to grab the belts too but the bolts were too rusted and stripped right out.

I was able to snag one belt from an 89 F250 supercab that had captains and it mounted in the same location as best I could tell. At least in terms of where the retractor went. I plan on extending it fully and taking a measurement to compare to the stock ones I have.

I tried to get both belts from the 89 but, again, one bolt stripped out and I had no way to remove it once that happened. I really need to get a cordless impact driver.

The belt from the 89 is made by TRW according to the receiver that I also grabbed. I plan on measuring and comparing the buckles between bendix and trw to see if they'll work together. The TRW latched well with the Bronco recievers which are Allied if I remember right.

Worst case I'll try to extract the belts to savage the plastics.

I also grabbed the cluster trim which was in excellent condition. I still have to take pictures of all the bits so those will follow in another post.

Instrument bezel

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Bronco belt receivers

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89 F250 receiver and belt assembly

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Unintelligible belt label

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All of it was ~$50

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Made it out to the junkyard today. They had one 83 Bronco that had been stripped pretty clean but it still had the seatbelt receivers and the plastics were in good shape. I tried to grab the belts too but the bolts were too rusted and stripped right out.

I was able to snag one belt from an 89 F250 supercab that had captains and it mounted in the same location as best I could tell. At least in terms of where the retractor went. I plan on extending it fully and taking a measurement to compare to the stock ones I have.

I tried to get both belts from the 89 but, again, one bolt stripped out and I had no way to remove it once that happened. I really need to get a cordless impact driver.

The belt from the 89 is made by TRW according to the receiver that I also grabbed. I plan on measuring and comparing the buckles between bendix and trw to see if they'll work together. The TRW latched well with the Bronco recievers which are Allied if I remember right.

Worst case I'll try to extract the belts to savage the plastics.

I also grabbed the cluster trim which was in excellent condition. I still have to take pictures of all the bits so those will follow in another post.

Good score, Chris. Hope you can get the belts out w/o damaging the plastic.

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Good score, Chris. Hope you can get the belts out w/o damaging the plastic.

I hope so too. I'm also hoping that the buckles are the same and then I wont have to, but we'll see on that.

I might try and go back to the yard next weekend and poke around some but my 2.5 year old makes it hard to duck out sometimes lol.

I was looking at the captains from the 89 F250. The driverside was shot, but the passenger side was nice. I really liked that the newer passenger seat flipped forward and slid instead of folding up like the current one I have does. I was tempted to snag the seat rails and see if they'd work with what I have.

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Good score, Chris. Hope you can get the belts out w/o damaging the plastic.

I hope so too. I'm also hoping that the buckles are the same and then I wont have to, but we'll see on that.

I might try and go back to the yard next weekend and poke around some but my 2.5 year old makes it hard to duck out sometimes lol.

I was looking at the captains from the 89 F250. The driverside was shot, but the passenger side was nice. I really liked that the newer passenger seat flipped forward and slid instead of folding up like the current one I have does. I was tempted to snag the seat rails and see if they'd work with what I have.

Yes, snagging the rails might be a great idea! I'm thinking through how I want to mount low-back buckets in Big Blue and that "ejector seat" bit on the passenger's side is crazy. I did rails for the captain's chairs but the passenger's seat doesn't fold the same way the driver's seat does, so some thinking and experimenting is called for.

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Good score, Chris. Hope you can get the belts out w/o damaging the plastic.

I hope so too. I'm also hoping that the buckles are the same and then I wont have to, but we'll see on that.

I might try and go back to the yard next weekend and poke around some but my 2.5 year old makes it hard to duck out sometimes lol.

I was looking at the captains from the 89 F250. The driverside was shot, but the passenger side was nice. I really liked that the newer passenger seat flipped forward and slid instead of folding up like the current one I have does. I was tempted to snag the seat rails and see if they'd work with what I have.

I measured the seat belt from the 89. I get right around 120" full extended.

I tried to measure the belts in the truck but I don't know how accurate I was.

Driver side I measured ~114" and passenger I measured ~112"

Both od those were done in the truck so I don't really trust the accuracy.

I wonder if anyone has spare supercab seatbelts for 80-86 that they could measure? I'm going to ask this in a reply to my question about seatbelts thread.

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I think you’ll be happy with that alternator.

But why would you limit the ammeter’s sensing to 30A? So you can see if things get out of balance?

I had an alternator quit and was using so little current that I didn’t notice it - until I turned the headlights on. So, as long as you allow full current to flow but have the ammeter show full scale with 30A you might be able to detect failure.

anybody know what DB Electrics return policy is like?

Turns out that even though my 460 has V belts, it has the smaller ear spacing alternator. Unless I can find an adjuster bracket or a different mounting point for the one I have I'll likely have to order a different alternator.

going to dig through the documentation first though.

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anybody know what DB Electrics return policy is like?

Turns out that even though my 460 has V belts, it has the smaller ear spacing alternator. Unless I can find an adjuster bracket or a different mounting point for the one I have I'll likely have to order a different alternator.

going to dig through the documentation first though.

After reviewing DB Electric 's return policy I'll probably have to eat the cost of this one and resell it locally if I can't make it work. :/ that's what I get for not measuring ahead of time.

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After reviewing DB Electric 's return policy I'll probably have to eat the cost of this one and resell it locally if I can't make it work. :/ that's what I get for not measuring ahead of time.

Bummer! But call them first, they seemed very helpful when I called so may work with you.

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Bummer! But call them first, they seemed very helpful when I called so may work with you.

I feel like a challenge after sleeping off the frustration.

I'm going to try to make this larger alternator work. I have the fabrication skills necessary that I could make my own adjuster bracket if I need to.

Also, Gary I measured the thickness of the adjuster ear on my 1G and it's thicker than the shown 1/2" in the 3G tab. I measure 13/16" on the 1G and 1 1/16" on the 3G

I've also ordered a set of 3 jaw pullers since the serpentine pulley is stuck on the shaft of the 3G. I removed the nut and lock washer and it will not budge by hand. The V-belt pulley from the 1G slid right off.

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I feel like a challenge after sleeping off the frustration.

I'm going to try to make this larger alternator work. I have the fabrication skills necessary that I could make my own adjuster bracket if I need to.

Also, Gary I measured the thickness of the adjuster ear on my 1G and it's thicker than the shown 1/2" in the 3G tab. I measure 13/16" on the 1G and 1 1/16" on the 3G

I've also ordered a set of 3 jaw pullers since the serpentine pulley is stuck on the shaft of the 3G. I removed the nut and lock washer and it will not budge by hand. The V-belt pulley from the 1G slid right off.

I think a thicker ear is standard. Doesn't the 3G page say something about bending the arm?

Anyway, I have no doubt you can do it. Take pics along the way, please.

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