BigBrother-84 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Hi, Here are 3 Ford OEM armrests that are identical to the 1984 CrewCab rear door ones (possibly 84-86, I cannot confirm). Curiously, the part numbers on packages differ from the ones stamped on the armrests (possibly only the number of the black plastic frame?). Ford part numbers (package / armrest / side): - E1FZ-7424140-A6T / E1EB-7424143 / RH - E3FZ-7424141-A6S / E1EB-7424149 / LH - E3FZ-7424141-B5D / E1EB-7424149 / LH Here are pictures: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Welcome to the wonderful world of Ford's #'s. Just FYI, Ford does not put part numbers on the parts. Instead, any # on a part is an engineering or ID #. It was one of the many "better ideas" Ford had. The Master Parts Catalog was created to give people the part numbers, but it does have a few ID #'s as ancillary information. But courtesy of Bill/Numberdummy I have three cross-reference books that usually let me find the part number from an ID number, or vice versa. As for decoding the part number prefix of E1FZ: E means the decade of 1980; 1 adds to the E to give 1981; F means it was a part originally designed for a Mustang; and Z means it is a service replacement part. And, I just learned that we already had those numbers on the site. Here is a snippet from the MPC that we have on the page at Documentation/Interior/Doors/Door Panels and then the Part Number tab. This is from the info on 1985, and you can see we have 6 different colors. But I didn't know that those parts are originally for a Mustang. And you found them on an Escort or Lynx. I'm going to peruse the 1980 - 89 Car MPC and see if I can figure out what all vehicles used those arm rests. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpin Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Welcome to the wonderful world of Ford's #'s. Just FYI, Ford does not put part numbers on the parts. Instead, any # on a part is an engineering or ID #. It was one of the many "better ideas" Ford had. The Master Parts Catalog was created to give people the part numbers, but it does have a few ID #'s as ancillary information. But courtesy of Bill/Numberdummy I have three cross-reference books that usually let me find the part number from an ID number, or vice versa. As for decoding the part number prefix of E1FZ: E means the decade of 1980; 1 adds to the E to give 1981; F means it was a part originally designed for a Mustang; and Z means it is a service replacement part. And, I just learned that we already had those numbers on the site. Here is a snippet from the MPC that we have on the page at Documentation/Interior/Doors/Door Panels and then the Part Number tab. This is from the info on 1985, and you can see we have 6 different colors. But I didn't know that those parts are originally for a Mustang. And you found them on an Escort or Lynx. I'm going to peruse the 1980 - 89 Car MPC and see if I can figure out what all vehicles used those arm rests. Thanks! Cool! Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Cool! Thanks for the info. Well, this is interesting. The MPC's plainly say that the "F" in E3FZ is for the Mustang. So you'd think that an E3FZ 7424140/1, which was designed in '83, would have been used in the 80's Mustangs. But, it wasn't! Instead it was used in the 1983 - 87 Escort and Lynx cars, which carry the alpha codes of "M" and "MW" respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBrother-84 Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 Well, this is interesting. The MPC's plainly say that the "F" in E3FZ is for the Mustang. So you'd think that an E3FZ 7424140/1, which was designed in '83, would have been used in the 80's Mustangs. But, it wasn't! Instead it was used in the 1983 - 87 Escort and Lynx cars, which carry the alpha codes of "M" and "MW" respectively. Wow! I didn't know that I could have probably found these armrests on eBay by simply typing "7424140" or "7424141". In fact, I found them typing "80-86 Escort-Lynx Station Wagon". Seems that they are never identified as "F-series Crew Cab" (nore Mustang, I would say). Thanks Gary for this "Ford-Part-Numbering-Rules" lesson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Wow! I didn't know that I could have probably found these armrests on eBay by simply typing "7424140" or "7424141". In fact, I found them typing "80-86 Escort-Lynx Station Wagon". Seems that they are never identified as "F-series Crew Cab" (nore Mustang, I would say). Thanks Gary for this "Ford-Part-Numbering-Rules" lesson! Welcome. I've learned a little bit about the catalogs, but the real guru is Bill/Numberdummy. He's forgotten more than I'll ever know. Anyway, happy to help. And yes, I think you can find them by using the part number. But, bear in mind that "7424140" is the generic part number. That is an arm rest for essentially any Ford vehicle manufactured anywhere in the world since 1965. To make it specific to a particular vehicle you need a prefix, like E3FZ, and a suffix, like "A8P". We've decoded the prefix, but the suffix is usually an A, B, C type of thing as changes are made. But in the case of trim it actually somehow decodes to color, and I have no idea how they get Charcoal out of A8P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBrother-84 Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 Welcome. I've learned a little bit about the catalogs, but the real guru is Bill/Numberdummy. He's forgotten more than I'll ever know. Anyway, happy to help. And yes, I think you can find them by using the part number. But, bear in mind that "7424140" is the generic part number. That is an arm rest for essentially any Ford vehicle manufactured anywhere in the world since 1965. To make it specific to a particular vehicle you need a prefix, like E3FZ, and a suffix, like "A8P". We've decoded the prefix, but the suffix is usually an A, B, C type of thing as changes are made. But in the case of trim it actually somehow decodes to color, and I have no idea how they get Charcoal out of A8P. In all cases, the result is perfect for BigBrother's rear doors. Much better than the rubber straps that have act as handle for the last 25 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 In all cases, the result is perfect for BigBrother's rear doors. Much better than the rubber straps that have act as handle for the last 25 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoHuskerDu Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Welcome to the wonderful world of Ford's #'s. Just FYI, Ford does not put part numbers on the parts. Instead, any # on a part is an engineering or ID #. It was one of the many "better ideas" Ford had. The Master Parts Catalog was created to give people the part numbers, but it does have a few ID #'s as ancillary information. But courtesy of Bill/Numberdummy I have three cross-reference books that usually let me find the part number from an ID number, or vice versa. As for decoding the part number prefix of E1FZ: E means the decade of 1980; 1 adds to the E to give 1981; F means it was a part originally designed for a Mustang; and Z means it is a service replacement part. And, I just learned that we already had those numbers on the site. Here is a snippet from the MPC that we have on the page at Documentation/Interior/Doors/Door Panels and then the Part Number tab. This is from the info on 1985, and you can see we have 6 different colors. But I didn't know that those parts are originally for a Mustang. And you found them on an Escort or Lynx. I'm going to peruse the 1980 - 89 Car MPC and see if I can figure out what all vehicles used those arm rests. Thanks! I am old enough to remember the jingle. "Ford's ... got a better idea!" All over the radio. Then when I bought my first car, I met that "better idea" mentality first hand. Ford did not equip my 1967 Mustang with Zerk fittings. Oh no, that would have cost a dollar more. Instead Ford installed little plugs in the holes. My Mustang was of course second hand, I was only 16 and had saved up from paper routes and odd jobs, just call me Old Economy Steve. See link below. That Mustang had over 50k on it and had never been greased. Because of one of Ford's better ideas. The Pinto gas tank fires were a better idea too. Did Ford learn? I don't think so. Just ask any bitter old Ford parts counter guy... Old Economy Steve memes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsmblue Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I am old enough to remember the jingle. "Ford's ... got a better idea!" All over the radio. Then when I bought my first car, I met that "better idea" mentality first hand. Ford did not equip my 1967 Mustang with Zerk fittings. Oh no, that would have cost a dollar more. Instead Ford installed little plugs in the holes. My Mustang was of course second hand, I was only 16 and had saved up from paper routes and odd jobs, just call me Old Economy Steve. See link below. That Mustang had over 50k on it and had never been greased. Because of one of Ford's better ideas. The Pinto gas tank fires were a better idea too. Did Ford learn? I don't think so. Just ask any bitter old Ford parts counter guy... Old Economy Steve memes Tremendous help, thank you! Just found a LH in red for $50 delivered. It is the last part I need for the interior of Elyza. When it is in I can finally take and post pics of the new interior!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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