Rusty_S85 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 The distributor connector is the one thing hard to find for a DSII harness. Obviously, Painless has a source and rebuild companies can get the Dizzy side. Motorcraft does have a compatible connector, if you are willing to remove the 'keys' that interfere. Seems like most OE Ford connectors for this vintage are hard to find but companies can get them just fine its the consumers that just cant really get them. Its like Custom Auto Wire, their systems use OE connectors as well for our trucks from the photos I seen of the update wiring kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 The distributor connector is the one thing hard to find for a DSII harness. Obviously, Painless has a source and rebuild companies can get the Dizzy side. Motorcraft does have a compatible connector, if you are willing to remove the 'keys' that interfere. Seems like most OE Ford connectors for this vintage are hard to find but companies can get them just fine its the consumers that just cant really get them. Its like Custom Auto Wire, their systems use OE connectors as well for our trucks from the photos I seen of the update wiring kit. Rusty, if you move up a few years, Ford changed their connector design to some very nice multi-pin style, in .060" and .110" diameter male/female pins. They are available in weather proof and non-weatherproof styles. The larger ones seem to stop at 4 pins for the common weatherproof ones, the smaller ones go as high as 16 pins, but are frequently 8 pin round connectors. The actual pins and female sockets are available aftermarket from Dorman among others. These used inside the vehicle have an O-ring in the female shell (has the male pins in it) and outside will also have a rubber gasket the wires pass through on both ends to make the whole thing weatherproof. I have updated all of the wiring on Darth to the newer connectors and have a load of salvaged parts from scrap harnesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_S85 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Rusty, if you move up a few years, Ford changed their connector design to some very nice multi-pin style, in .060" and .110" diameter male/female pins. They are available in weather proof and non-weatherproof styles. The larger ones seem to stop at 4 pins for the common weatherproof ones, the smaller ones go as high as 16 pins, but are frequently 8 pin round connectors. The actual pins and female sockets are available aftermarket from Dorman among others. These used inside the vehicle have an O-ring in the female shell (has the male pins in it) and outside will also have a rubber gasket the wires pass through on both ends to make the whole thing weatherproof. I have updated all of the wiring on Darth to the newer connectors and have a load of salvaged parts from scrap harnesses. Ill take a look at those connectors if they look very similar I wont mind using them I just dont like having a visually different connector. Such as going form a semi round OE ford connector to a perfectly square connector that is only had in bright grey with bright red/orange weather seals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Rusty, if you move up a few years, Ford changed their connector design to some very nice multi-pin style, in .060" and .110" diameter male/female pins. They are available in weather proof and non-weatherproof styles. The larger ones seem to stop at 4 pins for the common weatherproof ones, the smaller ones go as high as 16 pins, but are frequently 8 pin round connectors. The actual pins and female sockets are available aftermarket from Dorman among others. These used inside the vehicle have an O-ring in the female shell (has the male pins in it) and outside will also have a rubber gasket the wires pass through on both ends to make the whole thing weatherproof. I have updated all of the wiring on Darth to the newer connectors and have a load of salvaged parts from scrap harnesses. Ill take a look at those connectors if they look very similar I wont mind using them I just dont like having a visually different connector. Such as going form a semi round OE ford connector to a perfectly square connector that is only had in bright grey with bright red/orange weather seals. I don't have pictures of the small pin ones right now, I will have to get some, also, on these I need to get the PNs off them. These are the non-weatherproof ones and use the .110 pins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_S85 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I don't have pictures of the small pin ones right now, I will have to get some, also, on these I need to get the PNs off them. These are the non-weatherproof ones and use the .110 pins Ah those are the older connectors, my '78 Mercury is riddled with those connectors. Id use those just as well for my auxiliary circuits since they still look fairly period correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Ah those are the older connectors, my '78 Mercury is riddled with those connectors. Id use those just as well for my auxiliary circuits since they still look fairly period correct. I will see if I can get pictures of the newer weatherproof ones for you today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I will see if I can get pictures of the newer weatherproof ones for you today. Ok Rusty, as promised with the exception on one non-weatherproof set. First 8 pin round for .060" diameter pins, they are 5 colors and by changing gender in a group Ford has 10 combinations. These were used 88-91 on the engine, transmission and chassis to front end connections and used in the rear for tail lights: Next some 4 pin versions, common on HO2S and other sensors: You can see from the seals that Ford only used as many pins as were needed and left the other locations blank. Now for the .110 connectors, 4 seems to be the biggest other than the 1987-91 and the outer rows on the 1992-97 bulkhead connectors that Ford used in weatherproof connectors: Now for some more unusual ones, these are from late 90s/2000s Panther platform cars, four .110 and eight .060 pins not all of which were used. These are a PITA to disassemble, but once done if the red retainers are left unlatched the wires slide in easily: A few more for your perusal: Enjoy and see if these will work for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Ok Rusty, as promised with the exception on one non-weatherproof set. First 8 pin round for .060" diameter pins, they are 5 colors and by changing gender in a group Ford has 10 combinations. These were used 88-91 on the engine, transmission and chassis to front end connections and used in the rear for tail lights: Next some 4 pin versions, common on HO2S and other sensors: You can see from the seals that Ford only used as many pins as were needed and left the other locations blank. Now for the .110 connectors, 4 seems to be the biggest other than the 1987-91 and the outer rows on the 1992-97 bulkhead connectors that Ford used in weatherproof connectors: Now for some more unusual ones, these are from late 90s/2000s Panther platform cars, four .110 and eight .060 pins not all of which were used. These are a PITA to disassemble, but once done if the red retainers are left unlatched the wires slide in easily: A few more for your perusal: Enjoy and see if these will work for you. Bill - I think we need to create a page with your pics and explanations. Yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Bill - I think we need to create a page with your pics and explanations. Yes? I was thinking of asking you about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Ok Rusty, as promised with the exception on one non-weatherproof set. First 8 pin round for .060" diameter pins, they are 5 colors and by changing gender in a group Ford has 10 combinations. These were used 88-91 on the engine, transmission and chassis to front end connections and used in the rear for tail lights: Next some 4 pin versions, common on HO2S and other sensors: You can see from the seals that Ford only used as many pins as were needed and left the other locations blank. Now for the .110 connectors, 4 seems to be the biggest other than the 1987-91 and the outer rows on the 1992-97 bulkhead connectors that Ford used in weatherproof connectors: Now for some more unusual ones, these are from late 90s/2000s Panther platform cars, four .110 and eight .060 pins not all of which were used. These are a PITA to disassemble, but once done if the red retainers are left unlatched the wires slide in easily: A few more for your perusal: Enjoy and see if these will work for you. This is great stuff Bill! Do you have some of the terminals you could add photos of just so they are all in the same thread (and Gary's doc)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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