85lebaront2 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Bill - I added some tabs to the page at Documentation/Electrical/Connectors. I'm not too pleased with it so I know there need to be changes. But please take a look and tell me what to change.Ok, on the large pin connectors, 7th row down you have one of the Crown Vic 4 & 8 pin ones on the left side and a 1/4" 4 flat pins on the right.. I also note that you didn't differentiate between weatherproof (with seals) and non-weatherproof. On the 3rd tab (mixed pin connectors) you have a few of the weatherproof .060 connectors, the 1/4" pair again pictures look good, once you click on them they pop out for a good look. BTW, if you want to make a removable front harness on BB, I will send you one or all of those 40 pin Lincoln Continental square ones. Bill On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 4:42 PM Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts Forum] <redacted_email_address> wrote: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Ok, I took the two off of the large pin tab and see that they are on the mixed tab. But on the weatherproof, please tell me which ones are which and I'll separate them. And, by a "removable front harness", which wires do you mean? Not the engine harness as it already has a connector. Sorry, I'm a bit lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Ok, I took the two off of the large pin tab and see that they are on the mixed tab.But on the weatherproof, please tell me which ones are which and I'll separate them.And, by a "removable front harness", which wires do you mean? Not the engine harness as it already has a connector. Sorry, I'm a bit lost.I will go over them tomorrow. Bill On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 10:55 PM Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts Forum] <redacted_email_address> wrote: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Ok, on the connectors page, under pictures, small pin connectors, using the id of the pictures as top left 1, top right 2 etc. Picture 1 round 8 pin connectors, these have a flat O-ring inside the male housing and are used both inside and out. In front of the 5 different colors are the seals for the open end which are used outside the body. They come with varying numbers of holes, the red pieces are the retainers, flat is for the male insert shell, ribbed for the female plug. Picture 2 is an end view of them. Picture 3 are the 4 pin variety, again made in open and closed end, but also made with white closure to insure the rubber seal doesn't work out (this style seems to be used on O2 sensors). The end seals are in picture 6. Picture 4, multi small pin, used in applications where a number of circuits are needed, radio systems with amplifiers, CD changers, electronic automatic climate control, remote keyless entry systems are examples. They are used as a plug into modules for these applications. Picture 5, side view of connectors in picture 4 Picture 6, seals and locking pieces for connectors in picture 3 Picture 7, female small pin terminals. Picture 8, male small pin terminals Second tab: Pictures 1 & 2, female and male .110 terminals Pictures 3 through 14, non-weatherproof connectors, although in 1987 and 1988 Ford used these, grease packed as external connectors replacing the previous rubber filled "pull apart" connectors as are used on the Duraspark ignition connections. Picture 15 is a 4 pin female shell, that can mate to a male version or a sensor (EGR for example). Tab 3: Pictures 1 - 5 are some 40 way (8 .110 and 32 .060) connectors from a 1995 Lincoln Continental, they were the "bulkhead" penetrations and were located on the side of the cowl at the rear of the right front fender, these are weatherproof outside (bolt end) but unsealed inside/ The inner portion of the connectors were snapped into holes in the cowl from the inside sealing them, the black channel was for the inside harness to retain it in place. Pictures 6 and 9 are some connectors used on late 90s into the 2000s Panther platform (Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis and Town Car), they have 4 .110 and 8 .060 provisions and are weatherproof as they are used underhood. Picture 7 is a male/female 4 pin flat 1/4" interior connector. Pictures 8 & 12 are two pin .110 connectors, used on sensors, trailer brake feed, auxiliary relay boxes and similar, I have seen them with only 1 lead. The rubber end seal on these and the 4 pin ones is extremely deep. These are used on ABS actuators and other high current locations Picture 10 is a 3 pin for male .060 and was a special application. Picture 11 is some 2 .060 pin connectors, mostly used on ABS sensors and the end seal is captured by the end of the shell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Ok, on the connectors page, under pictures, small pin connectors, using the id of the pictures as top left 1, top right 2 etc. Picture 1 round 8 pin connectors, these have a flat O-ring inside the male housing and are used both inside and out. In front of the 5 different colors are the seals for the open end which are used outside the body. They come with varying numbers of holes, the red pieces are the retainers, flat is for the male insert shell, ribbed for the female plug. Picture 2 is an end view of them. Picture 3 are the 4 pin variety, again made in open and closed end, but also made with white closure to insure the rubber seal doesn't work out (this style seems to be used on O2 sensors). The end seals are in picture 6. Picture 4, multi small pin, used in applications where a number of circuits are needed, radio systems with amplifiers, CD changers, electronic automatic climate control, remote keyless entry systems are examples. They are used as a plug into modules for these applications. Picture 5, side view of connectors in picture 4 Picture 6, seals and locking pieces for connectors in picture 3 Picture 7, female small pin terminals. Picture 8, male small pin terminals Second tab: Pictures 1 & 2, female and male .110 terminals Pictures 3 through 14, non-weatherproof connectors, although in 1987 and 1988 Ford used these, grease packed as external connectors replacing the previous rubber filled "pull apart" connectors as are used on the Duraspark ignition connections. Picture 15 is a 4 pin female shell, that can mate to a male version or a sensor (EGR for example). Tab 3: Pictures 1 - 5 are some 40 way (8 .110 and 32 .060) connectors from a 1995 Lincoln Continental, they were the "bulkhead" penetrations and were located on the side of the cowl at the rear of the right front fender, these are weatherproof outside (bolt end) but unsealed inside/ The inner portion of the connectors were snapped into holes in the cowl from the inside sealing them, the black channel was for the inside harness to retain it in place. Pictures 6 and 9 are some connectors used on late 90s into the 2000s Panther platform (Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis and Town Car), they have 4 .110 and 8 .060 provisions and are weatherproof as they are used underhood. Picture 7 is a male/female 4 pin flat 1/4" interior connector. Pictures 8 & 12 are two pin .110 connectors, used on sensors, trailer brake feed, auxiliary relay boxes and similar, I have seen them with only 1 lead. The rubber end seal on these and the 4 pin ones is extremely deep. These are used on ABS actuators and other high current locations Picture 10 is a 3 pin for male .060 and was a special application. Picture 11 is some 2 .060 pin connectors, mostly used on ABS sensors and the end seal is captured by the end of the shell. Bill - Thanks for taking all that time to write that up. I made a number of changes and would like you to vet it before I go farther. If I have the pics right then I'm going to try to use your verbiage for explanations. But, now that I've made changes it won't be easy to marry the explanations with the pics. So, if you want to give it to me again.... Note that some pics have legends that should pop up if you hover over them or click on them. In other cases I put the explanation in text before a section of pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Bill - Thanks for taking all that time to write that up. I made a number of changes and would like you to vet it before I go farther. If I have the pics right then I'm going to try to use your verbiage for explanations. But, now that I've made changes it won't be easy to marry the explanations with the pics. So, if you want to give it to me again.... :nabble_smiley_blush:Note that some pics have legends that should pop up if you hover over them or click on them. In other cases I put the explanation in text before a section of pics.Under large pin connector/Interior use, the very last picture is the plug end of a weatherproof 4 pin. Other than that, looks great! Bill On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:40 PM Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts Forum] <redacted_email_address> wrote: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Ok, I just put it in the Large Pin/Weatherproof set of tabs. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Bill - Thanks for taking all that time to write that up. I made a number of changes and would like you to vet it before I go farther. If I have the pics right then I'm going to try to use your verbiage for explanations. But, now that I've made changes it won't be easy to marry the explanations with the pics. So, if you want to give it to me again.... :nabble_smiley_blush:Note that some pics have legends that should pop up if you hover over them or click on them. In other cases I put the explanation in text before a section of pics.I realised reading through the multipin ones, I gave you a correct total, but incorrect count by size on the Lincoln Continental ones, it is 12 .110 and 28 .060 On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:12 PM Bill Vose <redacted_email_address> wrote: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Ok, I just put it in the Large Pin/Weatherproof set of tabs. Right?Yes, that is correct. I found my spare relay boxes, one two relay and one that will take 4 relays. Bill On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:51 PM Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts Forum] <redacted_email_address> wrote: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Ok, made the change to say "12 .110 and 28 .060". On the relay boxes, can you post some pics on Big Blue's thread? As said, I have two 4-relay boxes, but want to consider the options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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