salans7 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Shaun - Does the stuff on Ebay free have free shipping? From Amazon it does - to me 'cause I'm a Prime member. Yep, free shipping, but not through Amazon so it would take a few days to get to you versus whenever Prime delivery reaches your step. For me it's one day since the warehouse is two hours away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny G Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Shaun - Does the stuff on Ebay free have free shipping? From Amazon it does - to me 'cause I'm a Prime member. Scatch - Tell me more about the ACC Eva? I didn't find it on the ACC site, but I've seen it before. On your doors, w/o a vapor barrier won't you be chancing getting the jute wet? On the back wall, did the 87+ trucks have a bigger piece of carpet? I want that, for sure. And, speaking of 87+, I'm thinking of getting ACC carpet for a '90 with the high tunnel 'cause I have the ZF5. But I'm not finding "high tunnel" 5-speed. Am I missing it? LMC Truck EVA Sound Deadener Kit The EVA Sound Deadener Kit is die cut for easy installation. Made from OE type, 1/16" thick Ethyl Vinyl Acetate (EVA) which is asphalt based material for sound dampening. Applies directly to the cab floor. Reduces road noise and cab harmonics to give you a quieter ride and also helps to insulate against heat and cold. To further insulate against heat and cold, use in combination with the Heat Shield Kits. https://www.lmctruck.com/1980-96-ford/fd-1980-96-eva-sound-deadener-and-heat-shield-kits Heat Shield Kit (jute and foil) Heat Shield Kit is die cut to match the EVA Sound Deadener Kits for easy installation. Consists of 1/4" thick, 24 ounce needle punched jute padding on one side which insulates against heat and cold. The other side has two layers of fiber reinforced aluminum foil reflecting up to 97% of radiant heat which helps to keep you warm in the winter and cool in the summer. Rock Auto EVA; Die Cut; Complete; 2 pieces Sound Deadeners help insulate your vehicle from road noise and engine heat. EVA material is an acoustic noise barrier consisting of Asphaltic Mastic laminated with a Poly Film on one side and Black Paper on the other. It has an average thickness of 1/8" and was most commonly used in all makes and models during the 1960's-1980's. ACC sound deadeners meet federal standards for flammability retardation. It's the perfect beginning when replacing your carpet and to increase its durability. P/N ACC 14615350 https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=5988603&cc=1121656&jsn=4 https://www.accmats.com/commerce/1986/Ford/F-150/Sound%20Deadener/ The ACC eva is twice the thickness of LMC's at 125 mils. This is the ACC Foil and Jute I put over the Eva and kill mat https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=5987793&cc=1121656&jsn=7 Then on top of that the ACC carpet is 1/8" and if I remember correctly has some insulation as well on part of it in the foot wells and hump. On the doors I'm not worried about the jute getting wet because foil side will be facing the moisture and edges will be taped. If this proves difficult I will put the plastic in between it, but I don't think it will be necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 Shaun - Does the stuff on Ebay free have free shipping? From Amazon it does - to me 'cause I'm a Prime member. Scatch - Tell me more about the ACC Eva? I didn't find it on the ACC site, but I've seen it before. On your doors, w/o a vapor barrier won't you be chancing getting the jute wet? On the back wall, did the 87+ trucks have a bigger piece of carpet? I want that, for sure. And, speaking of 87+, I'm thinking of getting ACC carpet for a '90 with the high tunnel 'cause I have the ZF5. But I'm not finding "high tunnel" 5-speed. Am I missing it? LMC Truck EVA Sound Deadener Kit The EVA Sound Deadener Kit is die cut for easy installation. Made from OE type, 1/16" thick Ethyl Vinyl Acetate (EVA) which is asphalt based material for sound dampening. Applies directly to the cab floor. Reduces road noise and cab harmonics to give you a quieter ride and also helps to insulate against heat and cold. To further insulate against heat and cold, use in combination with the Heat Shield Kits. https://www.lmctruck.com/1980-96-ford/fd-1980-96-eva-sound-deadener-and-heat-shield-kits Heat Shield Kit (jute and foil) Heat Shield Kit is die cut to match the EVA Sound Deadener Kits for easy installation. Consists of 1/4" thick, 24 ounce needle punched jute padding on one side which insulates against heat and cold. The other side has two layers of fiber reinforced aluminum foil reflecting up to 97% of radiant heat which helps to keep you warm in the winter and cool in the summer. Rock Auto EVA; Die Cut; Complete; 2 pieces Sound Deadeners help insulate your vehicle from road noise and engine heat. EVA material is an acoustic noise barrier consisting of Asphaltic Mastic laminated with a Poly Film on one side and Black Paper on the other. It has an average thickness of 1/8" and was most commonly used in all makes and models during the 1960's-1980's. ACC sound deadeners meet federal standards for flammability retardation. It's the perfect beginning when replacing your carpet and to increase its durability. P/N ACC 14615350 https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=5988603&cc=1121656&jsn=4 https://www.accmats.com/commerce/1986/Ford/F-150/Sound%20Deadener/ The ACC eva is twice the thickness of LMC's at 125 mils. This is the ACC Foil and Jute I put over the Eva and kill mat https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=5987793&cc=1121656&jsn=7 Then on top of that the ACC carpet is 1/8" and if I remember correctly has some insulation as well on part of it in the foot wells and hump. On the doors I'm not worried about the jute getting wet because foil side will be facing the moisture and edges will be taped. If this proves difficult I will put the plastic in between it, but I don't think it will be necessary. Good explanation. And good pics. Thanks! I'll bet that combination made a huge difference - right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salans7 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Good explanation. And good pics. Thanks! I'll bet that combination made a huge difference - right? Another place to pay close attention to sound deadening and heat shielding is around a manual transmission/transfer case shifter. I did not put anything on the floor plate of my Ranger, but the plate features a factory rubber coating all around which acts as a sound deadener but it does not make a great heat shield as there is still a bit of heat that comes out from under my center console, even with the rubber plate tight to the shift lever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 Another place to pay close attention to sound deadening and heat shielding is around a manual transmission/transfer case shifter. I did not put anything on the floor plate of my Ranger, but the plate features a factory rubber coating all around which acts as a sound deadener but it does not make a great heat shield as there is still a bit of heat that comes out from under my center console, even with the rubber plate tight to the shift lever. Thanks, Shaun. I'm thinking of at least doubling up on whatever I use in the form of damping material around the transmission hump and cover, just for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsmblue Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Thanks, Shaun. I'm thinking of at least doubling up on whatever I use in the form of damping material around the transmission hump and cover, just for that reason. I used noico 80mil from Amazon. $65 for 36sqft. But, i am not here to mention that. You need decent rolllers to apply any of these materials. I took a chance on: ROLINGER Car Sound Deadening Rolling Sound Proof Insulation 5 Pcs for Auto Noise Roller Car Sound Deadener Application Installation Tool Rolling Wheel Interior Accessories https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MJ5P7BJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_eF0xEbP80D3VV All but one has a decent ball race and they really do a good job of making your preferred deadening adhere to your panels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 I used noico 80mil from Amazon. $65 for 36sqft. But, i am not here to mention that. You need decent rolllers to apply any of these materials. I took a chance on: ROLINGER Car Sound Deadening Rolling Sound Proof Insulation 5 Pcs for Auto Noise Roller Car Sound Deadener Application Installation Tool Rolling Wheel Interior Accessories https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MJ5P7BJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_eF0xEbP80D3VV All but one has a decent ball race and they really do a good job of making your preferred deadening adhere to your panels I'd seen those rollers and wondered if they were worth it. Thanks for the endorsement. (Btw, I'm glad you didn't mention the Noico 80 mil. Don't tell anyone, but that's one I'm leaning to. And their Red 315 Mil Liner on top of it, at least in some places.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETM Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I'd seen those rollers and wondered if they were worth it. Thanks for the endorsement. Thanks, Looking at adding some this summer so it isn't so much of an Riddle box any more. Great post to follow not enough reviews on this stuff that is not sponsored reviews so their is not much comparing. Will save this for summer, as the weather is all ready starting to switch here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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