Gary Lewis Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I'm going to have to disagree. I know I wasn't "there", but I just checked only three documents and all three agree that there were 2bbl-equipped 302's in 1985. I know there are errors in the literature, but when all three of the ones I checked agree, it seems pretty conclusive to me. I thought Vinny mentioned a while back that the early '85 302's were still carbed, and that the full switch to EFI didn't actually take place until around February of 1985. I thought he said that most 302 trucks with a build date of 02/85 and later were EFI, and before that were mostly carbed. It might have been January, but I'm not sure now. Since production probably started in August, January or February for the introduction would fit with "late availability". Haven't heard from Vinny/vjsimone in a while. He rode his bike here to the show a year and a half ago, and has checked in a few times since, but not often. Wonder how he's doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Since production probably started in August, January or February for the introduction would fit with "late availability". Haven't heard from Vinny/vjsimone in a while. He rode his bike here to the show a year and a half ago, and has checked in a few times since, but not often. Wonder how he's doing? I haven't seen him around much. I've seen him pop up on FTE occasionally if somebody needs help with a 302 EFI, but he seems to be quiet otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old55pete Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I'm going to have to disagree. I know I wasn't "there", but I just checked only three documents and all three agree that there were 2bbl-equipped 302's in 1985. I know there are errors in the literature, but when all three of the ones I checked agree, it seems pretty conclusive to me. I thought Vinny mentioned a while back that the early '85 302's were still carbed, and that the full switch to EFI didn't actually take place until around February of 1985. I thought he said that most 302 trucks with a build date of 02/85 and later were EFI, and before that were mostly carbed. It might have been January, but I'm not sure now. - deleted - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 - deleted - Good to know on the harness. Cory, I sent Cousin Vinny an email asking how he is and if he'd join the fray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Cory, I sent Cousin Vinny an email asking how he is and if he'd join the fray. I assume he is down south this time of year, but if by chance he is in Newfoundland still, I can tell you that they're still digging out from a snow storm they had a couple weeks ago. They got absolutely pounded...3 full feet plus in under 24 hours...the whole peninsula was in a state of emergency for a solid week. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 The throttle cable will be: 85/ F-U150/250 - - AOD 8 302,351 EFI E5TZ 9A758-A 40" long But on the fuel injector harness, I can't find anything. Does yours have a label of any kind on it? If so I might be able to cross reference that ID # to a part #, but other than that I can't find electrical harnesses. Sorry. https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-OEM-Ford-1985-1990-F150-Truck-Bronco-Accelerator-Cable-1986-1987-1988-1989/143529648180?epid=1271704185&hash=item216b08a034:g:osEAAOSwe2JeNKk1Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Thank you both! It looks like the throttle cable part number was also superseded multiple times ending at E9TZ9A758U which will be much easier and less expensive to find. No photo available: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Ford-Cable-Assembly-Throttle-Control-E9TZ-9A758-U/303150746856?epid=1356017343&hash=item4695314ce8:g:qLUAAOSwFp5c1hbn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fords4life Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 Cory, I sent Cousin Vinny an email asking how he is and if he'd join the fray. I assume he is down south this time of year, but if by chance he is in Newfoundland still, I can tell you that they're still digging out from a snow storm they had a couple weeks ago. They got absolutely pounded...3 full feet plus in under 24 hours...the whole peninsula was in a state of emergency for a solid week. Good info being shared here. So far, I have found one place to get a new aftermarket harness that copies the original setup and that is through Ron Francis wiring. 1986 EFI Harness. What's interesting is that they show a harness for an '85 as well that is $100 less, but they use the same photo and list the same connections so I'm not sure what the difference is. 1985 EFI Harness. Looking at their catalog just now, they only list the '85 version in their catalog, but I don't think there should be any difference. The catalog lists it for $129. Still considering ordering the connectors and fabricating the harness myself. Injector connectors are around $40 for the 8 of them from Painless, just need to get my hands on the harness again so I can confirm the O2 sensor and connection to the main harness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old55pete Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Good info being shared here. So far, I have found one place to get a new aftermarket harness that copies the original setup and that is through Ron Francis wiring. 1986 EFI Harness. What's interesting is that they show a harness for an '85 as well that is $100 less, but they use the same photo and list the same connections so I'm not sure what the difference is. 1985 EFI Harness. Looking at their catalog just now, they only list the '85 version in their catalog, but I don't think there should be any difference. The catalog lists it for $129. Still considering ordering the connectors and fabricating the harness myself. Injector connectors are around $40 for the 8 of them from Painless, just need to get my hands on the harness again so I can confirm the O2 sensor and connection to the main harness. - deleted - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fords4life Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 One of the things that you need to be aware of is that there are two different harnesses. One for California smog and the 49 state harness. If you have a 49 state, read that as federal smog, you will have a two wire O2 sensor. One wire is to heat the sensor and the other is the return to the ECU that reads the millivolts to lean out the injection as the engine warms up. The one for California has a one wire sensor, no heat circuit. Find out which one you have so you get the correct harness. As Gary would say. See if you can find the engine calibration number and use it to find out what 02 sensor it needs. My 86 Bronco has a calibration number of 654S-R00 it goes to page 500 and shows California smog and the 02 sensor part number is E63Z-9F472-A and that number crosses to a Bosch single wire 02 sensor Interesting note for sure. That is one area I hadn't run into any issues with incorrect info yet and wasn't aware of the difference. My Calibration parts list is 492 and that has matched all of the other emissions stuff so far. It does reference a one wire 02 sensor which is what I have, but the truck should be a 49 State truck as it was originally sold here in Colorado. I have the original shipping tag and invoice that was in the glovebox still. Hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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