Gary Lewis Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I guess I need to change that fuse then. Thanks! As for the relays, that's a slick system. While I'm typing on the 3G page, do you know if they have a single or double-relay pack? I realize that $20 for 6 relays and fuses is cheap, but I'm exploring options for the page. Ok, sports fans, let's see what you think of what we have on the Choke tab here: Documentation/Electrical/3G Conversions. We can embellish it, improve it, etc but we have a start. Please tell me what to change, add, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I guess I need to change that fuse then. Thanks! As for the relays, that's a slick system. While I'm typing on the 3G page, do you know if they have a single or double-relay pack? I realize that $20 for 6 relays and fuses is cheap, but I'm exploring options for the page. Hmm, I found some singles on ebay but they are 10/per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Ok, sports fans, let's see what you think of what we have on the Choke tab here: Documentation/Electrical/3G Conversions. We can embellish it, improve it, etc but we have a start. Please tell me what to change, add, etc. Looks great! Since it's typically the first question I ask myself when adding a load to a factory circuit, what about a similar 'peace of mind' confirmation comment on the 460 option as you have on the relay option? Something like: Since the R/Y from the factory is only being used to pull in the fuel pump relay, adding the additional [at most] 10 amp load is well within the capabilities of the circuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisler Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Ok, sports fans, let's see what you think of what we have on the Choke tab here: Documentation/Electrical/3G Conversions. We can embellish it, improve it, etc but we have a start. Please tell me what to change, add, etc. Gary: what you have there is what I did for my 3G alternator/Edelbrock carb. combo, except I used a marine 4-fuse block (with cover) with a single power feed because I plan to add other relay-controlled accessories and didn't want to run multiply power feeds. I fabricated a panel to hold the fuse block and relays with a central ground screw. So far works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Gary: what you have there is what I did for my 3G alternator/Edelbrock carb. combo, except I used a marine 4-fuse block (with cover) with a single power feed because I plan to add other relay-controlled accessories and didn't want to run multiply power feeds. I fabricated a panel to hold the fuse block and relays with a central ground screw. So far works well. Scott - I was afraid a single would cost almost as much as the 6-pack, so I think I'll point that out on that page and let the reader choose. But I also need to add that the relay should be kept close to the source of power, like the starter relay, as the fuse is at the relay and if there's a short in the wire running to the relay it'll melt down. Having said that, even the wire running to a fuse holder is unprotected, so as long as the wire is kept short it is fine. And I think your upgrade on the 460 is a good one. Whisler - Yes, individual power feeds is an issue with something like this. I think Jim ran into that with his power distribution box. So having something with a buss in it would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old55pete Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Scott - I was afraid a single would cost almost as much as the 6-pack, so I think I'll point that out on that page and let the reader choose. But I also need to add that the relay should be kept close to the source of power, like the starter relay, as the fuse is at the relay and if there's a short in the wire running to the relay it'll melt down. Having said that, even the wire running to a fuse holder is unprotected, so as long as the wire is kept short it is fine. And I think your upgrade on the 460 is a good one. Whisler - Yes, individual power feeds is an issue with something like this. I think Jim ran into that with his power distribution box. So having something with a buss in it would be nice. Gary, these relays can be bought at NAPA with a 5 wire plug already attached. I buy them by the hand full for about $14.00 apiece and use them when I do custom truck bed builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Gary, these relays can be bought at NAPA with a 5 wire plug already attached. I buy them by the hand full for about $14.00 apiece and use them when I do custom truck bed builds. Steve - Thanks. Do they have the built-in fuse? That is what makes the ones Scott found so appealing, with fuse, relay, and socket as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Steve - Thanks. Do they have the built-in fuse? That is what makes the ones Scott found so appealing, with fuse, relay, and socket as one. I had actually bought a set of these before I switched to the Bussman fuse/relay block so opened them up to take a look this morning. Quality is surprisingly solid. The way the sockets snap together is really nice also. Red: 14awg White: 16awg Black: 16awg Blue: 14awg To avoid joins I would probably remove their wires and make my own but they do give plenty to hook onto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I had actually bought a set of these before I switched to the Bussman fuse/relay block so opened them up to take a look this morning. Quality is surprisingly solid. The way the sockets snap together is really nice also. Red: 14awg White: 16awg Black: 16awg Blue: 14awg To avoid joins I would probably remove their wires and make my own but they do give plenty to hook onto. Scott - They come with a 30a fuse, right? Other than that they are just right for the choke relay or for headlight relays. Buy a set of 6 and use 1 or 2 and have spares. The only thing I wish is that the fuse holder was part of the socket and not part of the relay. That way you could use other relays and still be protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Scott - They come with a 30a fuse, right? Other than that they are just right for the choke relay or for headlight relays. Buy a set of 6 and use 1 or 2 and have spares. The only thing I wish is that the fuse holder was part of the socket and not part of the relay. That way you could use other relays and still be protected. Yeah -30 I agree, that would be nice to have the fuse there instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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