FormerBigDaddy Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 Yeah -30 I agree, that would be nice to have the fuse there instead. You guys are wild. Following closely... Once you guys decide on what's needed and show me how to put it together I'm confident I can handle it. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 You guys are wild. Following closely... Once you guys decide on what's needed and show me how to put it together I'm confident I can handle it. Thank you! Check out the page now to see what questions you have. All - Note that I had to invert the normal Bosch relay drawing to fit with Mictuning's wire colors and terminal designations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Check out the page now to see what questions you have. All - Note that I had to invert the normal Bosch relay drawing to fit with Mictuning's wire colors and terminal designations. Nice job Gary! And if one cares about it and really wants to, for the choke and stator wires (the battery and ground may be close enough) they can remove the terminals from the sockets and crimp on your own so you don't have any splices/inline connectors. These would need verified: Tyco 42238-2 Tyco 180384-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 And if one cares about it and really wants to, for the choke and stator wires (the battery and ground may be close enough) they can remove the terminals from the sockets and crimp on your own so you don't have any splices/inline connectors. Do you have a link to the single relays? And can you confirm that the 7v from the Alternator will pull in and hold the relay closed OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 And if one cares about it and really wants to, for the choke and stator wires (the battery and ground may be close enough) they can remove the terminals from the sockets and crimp on your own so you don't have any splices/inline connectors. Do you have a link to the single relays? And can you confirm that the 7v from the Alternator will pull in and hold the relay closed OK? Hey Cory, Since the listings fluctuate, rather than a link I'd do a search for 'fused relay' on eBay. There is a single for 7.xx USD right now. 6 packs seem to be the best per unit price by far though. I've seen posts both ways regarding the 7v question. Some say 8v is needed but others say it works fine with 5v. I've never tried so can't comment on it and will defer to Gary. Before this thread, which I am thankful for as the 460 option is cleaner for me, i was going to install another oil pressure switch, use the LG\R wire to trigger a relay that would go to the new oil pressure switch and then on to the choke. That's just another option and does use 12v to trigger the relay but with the added overhead of the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Hey Cory, Since the listings fluctuate, rather than a link I'd do a search for 'fused relay' on eBay. There is a single for 7.xx USD right now. 6 packs seem to be the best per unit price by far though. I've seen posts both ways regarding the 7v question. Some say 8v is needed but others say it works fine with 5v. I've never tried so can't comment on it and will defer to Gary. Before this thread, which I am thankful for as the 460 option is cleaner for me, i was going to install another oil pressure switch, use the LG\R wire to trigger a relay that would go to the new oil pressure switch and then on to the choke. That's just another option and does use 12v to trigger the relay but with the added overhead of the switch. In my experience the stator voltage has always pulled the relay in. But, that's a good question on these new relays as it may vary by relay manufacturer. Scott, could you do a test since you have the relays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 In my experience the stator voltage has always pulled the relay in. But, that's a good question on these new relays as it may vary by relay manufacturer. Scott, could you do a test since you have the relays? You bet! Just did a quick test with a continuity tester and a trickle charger that has settings for 6v 2amp, 12v 2amp, and 12v 6amp. At all three settings the relay clicked and tester light lit up. My relays aren't the same seller brand as listed but it's likely the specs are close if not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 You bet! Just did a quick test with a continuity tester and a trickle charger that has settings for 6v 2amp, 12v 2amp, and 12v 6amp. At all three settings the relay clicked and tester light lit up. My relays aren't the same seller brand as listed but it's likely the specs are close if not the same. To be exact, these are the ones I have: https://www.ebay.com/itm/253167690800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 You bet! Just did a quick test with a continuity tester and a trickle charger that has settings for 6v 2amp, 12v 2amp, and 12v 6amp. At all three settings the relay clicked and tester light lit up. My relays aren't the same seller brand as listed but it's likely the specs are close if not the same. I just tried on my bench power supply and my Tyco relays come in at about 6.5V. But that's a pure DC and I think the stator puts out a pulsing DC. And it is that pulse that gets read as 7V by most DVM's. Anyway, it would be good to know that similar relays to those in the link come in using the stator. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormerBigDaddy Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 I just tried on my bench power supply and my Tyco relays come in at about 6.5V. But that's a pure DC and I think the stator puts out a pulsing DC. And it is that pulse that gets read as 7V by most DVM's. Anyway, it would be good to know that similar relays to those in the link come in using the stator. Thanks! Amazon delivering tomorrow so I should be able to knock this out. For the record, based on the schematic, the green wire won’t be used? What should I do with it? Clip it off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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