kramttocs Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I must have a bad connection somewhere. My drivers side window and lock does nothing and my drivers side switches do nothing. My passenger side window, lock and switches all work fine. Can you diagram your wiring and upload it? That will be the easiest way to figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Gary, I tried this and must have done something wrong. Is it possible that I misinterpreted your wiring diagram? I cut the existing circuit on the pink/yellow and pink/green wires (not literally cut, using a jumper) and wired in the orange and white (orange/black and white/black, too) so now the lock and unlock switch MUST pass through the relay in the new control unit to complete the circuit. The passenger side now works on the door switch and the remote for both lock and unlock and the drivers door does nothing using either the switch or the remote. Was I supposed to interrupt the existing circuit like in your original diagram? Thanks Chad - I'm copying the diagram I think you are referring to here so it is easier to discuss. But I agree with Scott, we need to see what you've done to figure it out. It is just so hard to get one's head around the words w/o a drawing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebeefy Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Gary, I tried this and must have done something wrong. Is it possible that I misinterpreted your wiring diagram? I cut the existing circuit on the pink/yellow and pink/green wires (not literally cut, using a jumper) and wired in the orange and white (orange/black and white/black, too) so now the lock and unlock switch MUST pass through the relay in the new control unit to complete the circuit. The passenger side now works on the door switch and the remote for both lock and unlock and the drivers door does nothing using either the switch or the remote. Was I supposed to interrupt the existing circuit like in your original diagram? Thanks Chad - I'm copying the diagram I think you are referring to here so it is easier to discuss. But I agree with Scott, we need to see what you've done to figure it out. It is just so hard to get one's head around the words w/o a drawing. Your drawing is accurate unless I did something wrong. Here’s a picture of everything hooked together except the ground: The jumper pushes every wire wire through unmolested except the pink/yellow and pink/green. Also I am tapping 12 volts for the power supply from the black/white wire. The power for the control unit as well as the yellow and yellow/black use the tap from the black/white wire: The jumper going to the passenger side door side connects pink/green to white and pink/yellow to orange. Heading towards the dash, the jumper connects the pink/yellow to orange/black and the pink/green to black/white: Also, I am hooking it up on the passenger side, not drivers side as shown in Gary’s diagram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebeefy Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Your drawing is accurate unless I did something wrong. Here’s a picture of everything hooked together except the ground: The jumper pushes every wire wire through unmolested except the pink/yellow and pink/green. Also I am tapping 12 volts for the power supply from the black/white wire. The power for the control unit as well as the yellow and yellow/black use the tap from the black/white wire: The jumper going to the passenger side door side connects pink/green to white and pink/yellow to orange. Heading towards the dash, the jumper connects the pink/yellow to orange/black and the pink/green to black/white: Also, I am hooking it up on the passenger side, not drivers side as shown in Gary’s diagram. Now that I am typing it out I think I see what I did wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebeefy Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Now that I am typing it out I think I see what I did wrong I have tried every combination of those 4 wires. No joy. I’m going to do two things now: 1. I am going to exchange the remote system on the off chance it’s defective. 2. I am going to rebuild the jumper from scratch. I’ll let you know if that solves the problem. I have no reason to believe that Gary’s instructions are flawed or that there is an issue somewhere else in my wiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebeefy Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I have tried every combination of those 4 wires. No joy. I’m going to do two things now: 1. I am going to exchange the remote system on the off chance it’s defective. 2. I am going to rebuild the jumper from scratch. I’ll let you know if that solves the problem. I have no reason to believe that Gary’s instructions are flawed or that there is an issue somewhere else in my wiring. Gary, Can you clarify something for me before I rebuild the jumper? Is it relevant which side the orange wires go to and which side the white wires go to? It seems like it should be, which leads me to some confusion about your diagram. If I am patching into the passenger side kick panel (instead of the drivers side as I interpret your drawing) should the orange/black wire and orange wire both go on the dash side of the jumper or the passenger door side of the jumper? Does it matter, as I suspect? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Gary, Can you clarify something for me before I rebuild the jumper? Is it relevant which side the orange wires go to and which side the white wires go to? It seems like it should be, which leads me to some confusion about your diagram. If I am patching into the passenger side kick panel (instead of the drivers side as I interpret your drawing) should the orange/black wire and orange wire both go on the dash side of the jumper or the passenger door side of the jumper? Does it matter, as I suspect? Thanks If I understand the question correctly it matters. The wires coming from the driver’s switch bring the power and need to go to terminal 30 on the relay. Was that the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebeefy Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 If I understand the question correctly it matters. The wires coming from the driver’s switch bring the power and need to go to terminal 30 on the relay. Was that the question? Hi Gary, Basically, that's the question. I understand how a relay works thanks to a recent project wiring in a second electrical electrical system (pun intended), but the door lock circuit between the two doors is still a mystery to me (even though I added it to the truck myself). If I understand you correctly, it doesn't matter whether you install on the passenger side or the drivers side, the orange pair should always go toward the drivers door and the white pair should always go towards the passenger door. Thanks, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 Hi Gary, Basically, that's the question. I understand how a relay works thanks to a recent project wiring in a second electrical electrical system (pun intended), but the door lock circuit between the two doors is still a mystery to me (even though I added it to the truck myself). If I understand you correctly, it doesn't matter whether you install on the passenger side or the drivers side, the orange pair should always go toward the drivers door and the white pair should always go towards the passenger door. Thanks, again. Yes, it doesn’t matter which side the relay is, but it needs to be oriented the way shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Hi Gary, Basically, that's the question. I understand how a relay works thanks to a recent project wiring in a second electrical electrical system (pun intended), but the door lock circuit between the two doors is still a mystery to me (even though I added it to the truck myself). If I understand you correctly, it doesn't matter whether you install on the passenger side or the drivers side, the orange pair should always go toward the drivers door and the white pair should always go towards the passenger door. Thanks, again. For some reason, and Ford was not the only one who did it, the driver's door power lock switch is the slave switch with the passenger one being the master, completely opposite of the windows. When I added remote locking to Darth, I used a 1999 Crown Victoria driver's door module which also gave me the one touch down power window and the ability to have the keypad on the door. FWIW, the 1994 up factory installed RKE system is the same as a Taurus, but the keypad input isn't used. With those it is possible to add the keypad by obtaining a plug and the innards for it and running the wires from the keypad location to the module under the dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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