Danny G Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Looks like there are two options out there, hard plastic, and cloth. Anyone used either of these? How was the fit, did it crowd the cabin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 The hard plastic ones in your pic look very similar to the originals. But the carpet ones don't. I've included a pic from the 1985 brochure of what the originals looked like. And I like the look of the original better than the new carpet ones. I've had both. The plastic ones hold a lot more than the carpet ones. But, being plastic, they can be noisy as things in them bounce and rattle. However, they don't seem to get in the way or crowd things. The original plastic ones were a bit brittle, or maybe I should say they are by now. And if you don't get your foot out of the way when closing the door you can crack them. The least strong spot is right along the top inner edge, which is about where they hit your foot or leg. I've repaired and reinforced them by gluing a strip of metal laid on its side in that top edge, and it really helped. The original carpet ones will hold a pair of gloves or two, a few sheets of paper, or maybe a small book. And they have elastic in them so they go back flat when things are taken out. But they aren't nearly as useful as the plastic ones. I could see placing your lunch in a plastic one and pulling it out as you drive. Not sure that would work with the carpet ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny G Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 The hard plastic ones in your pic look very similar to the originals. But the carpet ones don't. I've included a pic from the 1985 brochure of what the originals looked like. And I like the look of the original better than the new carpet ones. I've had both. The plastic ones hold a lot more than the carpet ones. But, being plastic, they can be noisy as things in them bounce and rattle. However, they don't seem to get in the way or crowd things. The original plastic ones were a bit brittle, or maybe I should say they are by now. And if you don't get your foot out of the way when closing the door you can crack them. The least strong spot is right along the top inner edge, which is about where they hit your foot or leg. I've repaired and reinforced them by gluing a strip of metal laid on its side in that top edge, and it really helped. The original carpet ones will hold a pair of gloves or two, a few sheets of paper, or maybe a small book. And they have elastic in them so they go back flat when things are taken out. But they aren't nearly as useful as the plastic ones. I could see placing your lunch in a plastic one and pulling it out as you drive. Not sure that would work with the carpet ones. great intel. Mine had "leather" ones kind of like the carpeted ones that was backed with ply wood. Not sure where the PO got them but they half rotted and didn't look great. I think I will be picking up a pair of these plastic ones then. I am at the point of reassembling doors (if I can get off weekend duty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salans7 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 great intel. Mine had "leather" ones kind of like the carpeted ones that was backed with ply wood. Not sure where the PO got them but they half rotted and didn't look great. I think I will be picking up a pair of these plastic ones then. I am at the point of reassembling doors (if I can get off weekend duty). The second "cloth" set looks to be a poor representation of the 87-91 map pockets for the bricknose trucks. I'm running a set of the originals on my truck, but there is less room on these than the older plastic ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 great intel. Mine had "leather" ones kind of like the carpeted ones that was backed with ply wood. Not sure where the PO got them but they half rotted and didn't look great. I think I will be picking up a pair of these plastic ones then. I am at the point of reassembling doors (if I can get off weekend duty). Check out the upper lip on them and see if you think they should be reinforced. Lots easier to do before they break. I considered lining the plastic ones with something soft to quieten them a bit, but never settled on what that would be, so didn't. But some of them had carpet glued to the inset on the outside, and that surely helped to tone them down some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve83 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Check out the upper lip on them and see if you think they should be reinforced. Lots easier to do before they break. I considered lining the plastic ones with something soft to quieten them a bit, but never settled on what that would be, so didn't. But some of them had carpet glued to the inset on the outside, and that surely helped to tone them down some. These are '87-91s, but they fit '80-91: https://supermotors.net/getfile/519293/thumbnail/doorpockets89.jpg I had some original (JY) hard pockets in my truck for a long time, and never broke the edge - only a few of the top tabs (probably from the weight I kept in them). I haven't seen them in years, though; I guess I sold them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny G Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 These are '87-91s, but they fit '80-91: https://supermotors.net/getfile/519293/thumbnail/doorpockets89.jpg I had some original (JY) hard pockets in my truck for a long time, and never broke the edge - only a few of the top tabs (probably from the weight I kept in them). I haven't seen them in years, though; I guess I sold them. is that a speaker hole or a vent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyn Blin Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I did a quick write up on DashTop's version, similar to the first option you have pictured. They've held up pretty well to my youngest girl's feet and friends getting in and out, using them as a kick panel. It's critical to strengthen them. I used steel roundbar on one and aluminum flatbar on the other. Both have held up equally. Keep in mind at least some of the aftermarket options don't have the back panel against the door, so whatever you place in there will sit against the lower door skin and rattle if it's not something soft. I would call LMC to ensure their offering matches the pic with how it seems to show a back panel. Here's the link to the page Here's a couple of pics to show the distance out from the door on the originals (unlike Steve's, mine were in very bad shape although I tried to salvage them, they completely cracked through). There's no real issue there. In fact, there's been a few times my girl's notebook has slid across the seat and landed squarely into the pocket. For what I use them for, I'd probably go for the carpeted style with the elastic pockets next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve83 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 is that a speaker hole or a vent?Vent. Later doors have louvers stamped into the inner door skin there, and a plastic 1-way valve (1520892) inside the door held on by 4 phillips-looking push-rivets. https://supermotors.net/getfile/253949/thumbnail/door-details.jpg https://supermotors.net/getfile/931422/thumbnail/doorweight.jpg I'm not sure when the louvers appeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyn Blin Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 is that a speaker hole or a vent?Vent. Later doors have louvers stamped into the inner door skin there, and a plastic 1-way valve (1520892) inside the door held on by 4 phillips-looking push-rivets. https://supermotors.net/getfile/253949/thumbnail/door-details.jpg https://supermotors.net/getfile/931422/thumbnail/doorweight.jpg I'm not sure when the louvers appeared. Steve, was that to reduce the "cushion " effect when the windows and vents were closed, discouraging a full latch when closing the door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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