Blacktop Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Hi everyone, wondering if you could help with some info. Does anyone have a Moog steering damper fitted to a 4x4 F150? I have mocked mine up ready to fit but not sure if it looks right!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacktop Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 Or perhaps this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacktop Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 Or perhaps this: Steering was on full right lock in the previous pics. This one shows it wheels straight ahead: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Steering was on full right lock in the previous pics. This one shows it wheels straight ahead: I think I like the second one best. But, two questions. First, why the steering damper? The guys here tell me they aren't needed if your steering linkage is tight and if you aren't traversing obstacles 1/4 the size of your tires. Second, how does the angle change as you steer through the full range? Does that second bracket seem to be at the right spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacktop Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 I think I like the second one best. But, two questions. First, why the steering damper? The guys here tell me they aren't needed if your steering linkage is tight and if you aren't traversing obstacles 1/4 the size of your tires. Second, how does the angle change as you steer through the full range? Does that second bracket seem to be at the right spot? Hi Gary, Just an experiment really to see if ride and bump steer improve with a damper fitted. The angle appears to stay pretty constant from lock to lock. I have it as it appears in the final photo and it does seem to handle a bit smoother over bumps. With the 33" tires it does tend to bounce even with new shocks aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Hi Gary, Just an experiment really to see if ride and bump steer improve with a damper fitted. The angle appears to stay pretty constant from lock to lock. I have it as it appears in the final photo and it does seem to handle a bit smoother over bumps. With the 33" tires it does tend to bounce even with new shocks aswell. If it is better then it looks like you have a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyn Blin Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Hi Gary, Just an experiment really to see if ride and bump steer improve with a damper fitted. The angle appears to stay pretty constant from lock to lock. I have it as it appears in the final photo and it does seem to handle a bit smoother over bumps. With the 33" tires it does tend to bounce even with new shocks aswell. I'm interested to hear how the final installation affects your steering quality- subscribed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve83 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 ...if ride and bump steer improve with a damper fitted.Ride is distinct from handling, which is the system the steering damper belongs to. Ride only refers to suspension, including tires, springs, struts (suspension links), frame harmonics, body mounts... Bump steer is a specific effect of a Panhard (track) bar NOT being parallel to the drag link at any point in the suspension travel. https://supermotors.net/getfile/1010550/thumbnail/steering1.jpg That term does not apply to the TTB suspension at all, and a steering damper would have no effect on bump steer anyway. If anything, it would make bump steer MORE-apparent. The only purpose of a steering damper is to reduce feedback from the tires to the steering wheel. This shows the factory steering damper installation: https://supermotors.net/getfile/440042/thumbnail/steeringlinkage.jpg Although the diagram is from the '92-96 Ford service manual, it's essentially the same as what my '83 Bronco originally had. https://supermotors.net/getfile/65161/thumbnail/winchup.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacktop Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 ...if ride and bump steer improve with a damper fitted.Ride is distinct from handling, which is the system the steering damper belongs to. Ride only refers to suspension, including tires, springs, struts (suspension links), frame harmonics, body mounts... Bump steer is a specific effect of a Panhard (track) bar NOT being parallel to the drag link at any point in the suspension travel. https://supermotors.net/getfile/1010550/thumbnail/steering1.jpg That term does not apply to the TTB suspension at all, and a steering damper would have no effect on bump steer anyway. If anything, it would make bump steer MORE-apparent. The only purpose of a steering damper is to reduce feedback from the tires to the steering wheel. This shows the factory steering damper installation: https://supermotors.net/getfile/440042/thumbnail/steeringlinkage.jpg Although the diagram is from the '92-96 Ford service manual, it's essentially the same as what my '83 Bronco originally had. https://supermotors.net/getfile/65161/thumbnail/winchup.jpg Thanks for the replies👍 I'm going to leave it on for a while and see if it makes any improvement. As I said, its only an experiment to see if it makes a difference. As my truck doesnt have either a front or rear sway bar, anything is worth a try. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Cecil Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Does anyone have a Moog steering damper fitted to a 4x4 F150? I have mocked mine up ready to fit but not sure if it looks right!?! Mine isn't moog, but its the factory damper....I think. I will see if I can dig up a photo for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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