Jaydog Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 Yes, and Skiatook fits right in. By the way, Arkalalah is Ark City's Fall/harvest festival. Ahh. I don't think the Goddard Eisenhower band marches there. May be a Class/school size thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydog Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 Ahh. I don't think the Goddard Eisenhower band marches there. May be a Class/school size thing. Update! Fuel pump will pull from a gas can, fuel filter in front of the carb is clear of debris. Pulled off the fuel line from the pump to the carb, and cleaned it out and observed gas being pumped during cranking, so I know fuel is getting to the carb, but it won't start. I poured gas straight down the carb several times and it started right up and ran and then it would die. Looks to my novice eyes that the carb isn't doing it's thing. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Update! Fuel pump will pull from a gas can, fuel filter in front of the carb is clear of debris. Pulled off the fuel line from the pump to the carb, and cleaned it out and observed gas being pumped during cranking, so I know fuel is getting to the carb, but it won't start. I poured gas straight down the carb several times and it started right up and ran and then it would die. Looks to my novice eyes that the carb isn't doing it's thing. Thoughts? So gas it getting TO the carb, but maybe not IN the carb? To determine that, pull the air cleaner and look down the carb, engine off, and open the throttle briskly. You should see a stream of gas shoot into the carb. That would be from the accelerator pump and it tells you that gas is getting into the carb and that the accelerator pump is working properly. If there's no stream then it is possible that gas is getting into the carb and the accelerator pump is not working. And a cold engine won't like to start w/o that extra squirt of gas, although it should if the choke is fully shut. So, is the choke shutting fully? With the engine cold it should be shut after you open the throttle just a bit. You can see illustrations and instructions on your carb here: http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/carter-yfa-1bbl.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydog Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 So gas it getting TO the carb, but maybe not IN the carb? To determine that, pull the air cleaner and look down the carb, engine off, and open the throttle briskly. You should see a stream of gas shoot into the carb. That would be from the accelerator pump and it tells you that gas is getting into the carb and that the accelerator pump is working properly. If there's no stream then it is possible that gas is getting into the carb and the accelerator pump is not working. And a cold engine won't like to start w/o that extra squirt of gas, although it should if the choke is fully shut. So, is the choke shutting fully? With the engine cold it should be shut after you open the throttle just a bit. You can see illustrations and instructions on your carb here: http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/carter-yfa-1bbl.html Yep, to the carb, not in. I'll do a "down the carb" peek today. It sure cranked like an engine not getting any gas. It ran fine on what I poured into the carb but then died after that. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydog Posted May 26, 2019 Author Share Posted May 26, 2019 Yep, to the carb, not in. I'll do a "down the carb" peek today. It sure cranked like an engine not getting any gas. It ran fine on what I poured into the carb but then died after that. Thanks! So, as I used say when I was DJ'ing "The hits just keep on coming!" I got the carb cleaned out, everything set to try and see if the truck would run...I put the key in the ignition, turned it...and it decided to turn all the way too easily, without starting the truck. Hmmm. Now the ignition switch turns freely without or with the key, and doesn't crank the engine. Grrrr. I know this has to be a common issue but....grrr. Thoughts, oh wonderful group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 So, as I used say when I was DJ'ing "The hits just keep on coming!" I got the carb cleaned out, everything set to try and see if the truck would run...I put the key in the ignition, turned it...and it decided to turn all the way too easily, without starting the truck. Hmmm. Now the ignition switch turns freely without or with the key, and doesn't crank the engine. Grrrr. I know this has to be a common issue but....grrr. Thoughts, oh wonderful group? Two steps forward and one backward is still progress. The ignition switch sits on the top of the steering column about 1/2 way down from the steering wheel. You can see it on the Ignition Switch tab here: Electrical/Ignition. Sounds like the link/rod has somehow been disconnected. It connects the tumbler to the switch. There are instructions on that tab to check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydog Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 Two steps forward and one backward is still progress. The ignition switch sits on the top of the steering column about 1/2 way down from the steering wheel. You can see it on the Ignition Switch tab here: Electrical/Ignition. Sounds like the link/rod has somehow been disconnected. It connects the tumbler to the switch. There are instructions on that tab to check it out. Yep, it was the steering wheel lock/shift actuator. I don't think I'm going to tackle that right now. My attention is turned towards the carb. The fuel pump works, it's pulling clean gas from a gas can, the filter is new, but it won't start. I think I'm going to swap out the carb. BUT, now I'm learning that my truck is blessed with the "feedback" carb. Any suggestions on this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Yep, it was the steering wheel lock/shift actuator. I don't think I'm going to tackle that right now. My attention is turned towards the carb. The fuel pump works, it's pulling clean gas from a gas can, the filter is new, but it won't start. I think I'm going to swap out the carb. BUT, now I'm learning that my truck is blessed with the "feedback" carb. Any suggestions on this issue? Do you need the feedback carb to meet emissions testing? Otherwise I'd consider going with a non-feedback carb. Having said that, do you have the EEC-III system? If so you'll not have a vacuum advance on the distributor if it is the EEC-III system. And, back to the carb, have you checked to see if you have fuel in the bowl? You can do that by looking down the throat of the carb and opening the throttle briskly - with the engine off. You should see fuel squirt into the carb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydog Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 Do you need the feedback carb to meet emissions testing? Otherwise I'd consider going with a non-feedback carb. Having said that, do you have the EEC-III system? If so you'll not have a vacuum advance on the distributor if it is the EEC-III system. And, back to the carb, have you checked to see if you have fuel in the bowl? You can do that by looking down the throat of the carb and opening the throttle briskly - with the engine off. You should see fuel squirt into the carb. Checked last night, no fuel going into carb. No gas squirting in. And yes, it does have the dreaded EEC-II system. I don't think I'm up for swapping out the carb and ignition system. Could all of this have crapped out after three years of sitting? My extremely layman's brain is wanting it to be just a gummed up carb that I can swap out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Checked last night, no fuel going into carb. No gas squirting in. And yes, it does have the dreaded EEC-II system. I don't think I'm up for swapping out the carb and ignition system. Could all of this have crapped out after three years of sitting? My extremely layman's brain is wanting it to be just a gummed up carb that I can swap out. I'd bet the needle is stuck to the seat in the carb, which prevents gas from coming in. Sometimes you can fix that with a rap on the carb with a plastic-tipped hammer or even a screwdriver handle. Tap down on the carb and then see if gas flows. May take a few tries, but it does work sometimes. And yes, it can be from a few years of sitting. The gas turns to varnish and causes things to stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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