Quarterwave Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 That would depend on where the leak is from. What I remember is that the case is all plastic, so if it has cracked you may have a hard time getting any glue or epoxy to stick. You'd have to clean it really well and make sure that no power steering fluid comes back through the crack before the glue sets. It may not be worth it if you are upgrading. But, how bad is the leak? Hi Gary, I've sprayed the hose contact points with parts cleaner and also where the hoses join into the pump but by the time I get to look at it, it's already leaking and hard to tell where it's coming from. Mind you, I'm having to turn the wheel a few times, then run out and look under the hood, as I'm doing it all by myself. I might just spring for the Saginaw unit and new hoses and hopefully, be done with it. Question - will this unit work and the hoses in the order fit with our standard steering box? https://www.jegs.com/i/Borgeson/153/800330K/10002/-1 If so, can anyone advise what size belt I'll also need, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Hi Gary, I've sprayed the hose contact points with parts cleaner and also where the hoses join into the pump but by the time I get to look at it, it's already leaking and hard to tell where it's coming from. Mind you, I'm having to turn the wheel a few times, then run out and look under the hood, as I'm doing it all by myself. I might just spring for the Saginaw unit and new hoses and hopefully, be done with it. Question - will this unit work and the hoses in the order fit with our standard steering box? https://www.jegs.com/i/Borgeson/153/800330K/10002/-1 If so, can anyone advise what size belt I'll also need, please? I've tied shop towels or paper towels around things that appear to leak. Keep them slightly apart and you can usually tell from whence the leak comes. But, I don't know if that pump kit will work. The pump itself should as the engine is essentially he same. But, I don't know if the hoses will work. Maybe someone else does? As for a belt, I don't know that we can tell because we don't know the source of the bracket, and I would think that would determine the necessary belt length. But, why not get a the necessary pieces from an E-Series van? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Hi Gary, I've sprayed the hose contact points with parts cleaner and also where the hoses join into the pump but by the time I get to look at it, it's already leaking and hard to tell where it's coming from. Mind you, I'm having to turn the wheel a few times, then run out and look under the hood, as I'm doing it all by myself. I might just spring for the Saginaw unit and new hoses and hopefully, be done with it. Question - will this unit work and the hoses in the order fit with our standard steering box? https://www.jegs.com/i/Borgeson/153/800330K/10002/-1 If so, can anyone advise what size belt I'll also need, please? Doing some re-reading of what I've seen before, and thought you might like to see these threads: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1269509-300-4-9l-saginaw-ps-pump-swap-question.html Don't miss the link in this one to SuperMotors https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1267599-saginaw-p-s-pump-questions.html This one has a link as well https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1173982-ford-saginaw-power-steering-pump-conversion.html https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1021533-saginaw-p-s-pump-conversion.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarterwave Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 Doing some re-reading of what I've seen before, and thought you might like to see these threads: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1269509-300-4-9l-saginaw-ps-pump-swap-question.html Don't miss the link in this one to SuperMotors https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1267599-saginaw-p-s-pump-questions.html This one has a link as well https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1173982-ford-saginaw-power-steering-pump-conversion.html https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1021533-saginaw-p-s-pump-conversion.html Thanks for sharing Gary, much appreciated. I will check them out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford F834 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Hi Gary, I've sprayed the hose contact points with parts cleaner and also where the hoses join into the pump but by the time I get to look at it, it's already leaking and hard to tell where it's coming from. Mind you, I'm having to turn the wheel a few times, then run out and look under the hood, as I'm doing it all by myself. I might just spring for the Saginaw unit and new hoses and hopefully, be done with it. Question - will this unit work and the hoses in the order fit with our standard steering box? https://www.jegs.com/i/Borgeson/153/800330K/10002/-1 If so, can anyone advise what size belt I'll also need, please? I have no doubt that the Borgeson products are top notch, but wow. That’s pricey and I would argue unnecessarily so. As Gary said, van parts are fairly readily available. The Saginaw pressure line is different, but not expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarterwave Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 I have no doubt that the Borgeson products are top notch, but wow. That’s pricey and I would argue unnecessarily so. As Gary said, van parts are fairly readily available. The Saginaw pressure line is different, but not expensive. Yes, I agree. I think I'm going to do what Gary recommended and wrap each hose-outlet in a paper towel to determine exactly where the leak is. If it's coming from the "spout" on the return line due to the hose not being correctly re-installed after a mechanic pulled my engine for head work (which I have a suspicion it is), I'll order some 3/8" fuel hose and double clamp it on the existing steel line. If it's leaking from the actual reservoir due to a crack, then I'll look at the Saginaw exchange unit - either from Borgeson or possibly from other vendors. It just seemed that despite the cost, the Borgeson(?) unit had all the stuff I need for a more-simple installation - the bracket, the pulley, the hoses and so on... all of which is about 30 years old on my truck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Yes, I agree. I think I'm going to do what Gary recommended and wrap each hose-outlet in a paper towel to determine exactly where the leak is. If it's coming from the "spout" on the return line due to the hose not being correctly re-installed after a mechanic pulled my engine for head work (which I have a suspicion it is), I'll order some 3/8" fuel hose and double clamp it on the existing steel line. If it's leaking from the actual reservoir due to a crack, then I'll look at the Saginaw exchange unit - either from Borgeson or possibly from other vendors. It just seemed that despite the cost, the Borgeson(?) unit had all the stuff I need for a more-simple installation - the bracket, the pulley, the hoses and so on... all of which is about 30 years old on my truck... Good plan but for the fuel hose. They make an oil hose rated for hot oil, and that's what I'd use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarterwave Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 Good plan but for the fuel hose. They make an oil hose rated for hot oil, and that's what I'd use. Ok, thanks Gary - 3/8" oil hose for hot oil it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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