Gary Lewis Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I have both the snap-on and KD style, either seems to work. Sometimes the big one will not work in place. Good point. While I agree with Steve that removing the pitman arm with the box on the truck is the best because the box is captive, that wasn't going to work for me today. The freshly powder-coated front swing arm was too close and it was a given that I was going to scratch it. So I pulled the box and worked it on the bench. The KD puller might have fit on a 4wd truck, but I doubt the Snap-on one would. However, either would probably work on a 2wd truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve83 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 ...he'd sell me one of the shafts for $30 bucks. ...it's just a matter of waiting for him to remove the stuff I guess.I'd sell that one for $20+sh (actual price, your choice), and I took that pic yesterday, so I can actually FIND it (unlike the interval wipers!!!). E-mail me if you want it.Is the rag joint a replaceable item on the 87-91 shafts?Anything is, I guess, if you can find a replacement. But I've never seen a molded rag joint go bad, unless it was burned or wrecked. That's why I like them so much. I think it's the same molding that's used on '92-96/7 intermediate shafts. https://supermotors.net/getfile/217634/thumbnail/intermediate-shaft-92.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 ...he'd sell me one of the shafts for $30 bucks. ...it's just a matter of waiting for him to remove the stuff I guess.I'd sell that one for $20+sh (actual price, your choice), and I took that pic yesterday, so I can actually FIND it (unlike the interval wipers!!!). E-mail me if you want it.Is the rag joint a replaceable item on the 87-91 shafts?Anything is, I guess, if you can find a replacement. But I've never seen a molded rag joint go bad, unless it was burned or wrecked. That's why I like them so much. I think it's the same molding that's used on '92-96/7 intermediate shafts. https://supermotors.net/getfile/217634/thumbnail/intermediate-shaft-92.jpg I just checked and the rag joint on the one I removed from Huck, the '90, is fine. And that truck was used and abused. So maybe they don't go bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford F834 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I just checked and the rag joint on the one I removed from Huck, the '90, is fine. And that truck was used and abused. So maybe they don't go bad? Trent told me the bricknose rag joints DO go bad, and when they fail the steering wheel slop is really horrible... worse than the old school rag joints. I don’t think it will stop me from using one on account of the high price of the Borgeson shafts, but if money were no object that’s what I would probably buy instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I just checked and the rag joint on the one I removed from Huck, the '90, is fine. And that truck was used and abused. So maybe they don't go bad? Trent told me the bricknose rag joints DO go bad, and when they fail the steering wheel slop is really horrible... worse than the old school rag joints. I don’t think it will stop me from using one on account of the high price of the Borgeson shafts, but if money were no object that’s what I would probably buy instead. Big Blue has the Borgeson. I'll have to see which is the prettiest, and that one will go on Dad's truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Anything is, I guess, if you can find a replacement. But I've never seen a molded rag joint go bad, unless it was burned or wrecked. That's why I like them so much. I think it's the same molding that's used on '92-96/7 intermediate shafts. https://supermotors.net/getfile/217634/thumbnail/intermediate-shaft-92.jpg Steve, Is the upper joint on this shaft molded rubber also?...I thought they had a sealed U-Joint style, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve83 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Is the upper joint on this shaft molded rubber also?...I thought they had a sealed U-Joint style, no?The'92-up upper U-joint is between that shaft & the column, and it can be unbolted as easily from one as from the other. But it's above the firewall boot, so to get that shaft out, I always separate it as shown, and leave the U-joint on the column. On the '87-91 intermediate shaft, the upper U-joint is below the firewall, and its yoke is welded to the intermediate shaft, so it only separates from the column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Is the upper joint on this shaft molded rubber also?...I thought they had a sealed U-Joint style, no?The'92-up upper U-joint is between that shaft & the column, and it can be unbolted as easily from one as from the other. But it's above the firewall boot, so to get that shaft out, I always separate it as shown, and leave the U-joint on the column. On the '87-91 intermediate shaft, the upper U-joint is below the firewall, and its yoke is welded to the intermediate shaft, so it only separates from the column. Oh...the picture you posted is of a 1992-up shaft then?....That makes sense. I thought it was an 87-91 shaft and I was wondering where the upper joint was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve83 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 the picture you posted is of a 1992-up shaft then?That last one you quoted on March 19 with the text "...'92-96/7" is the '92-97 shaft. The pic you quoted from 12PM March 16 is the '87-91 shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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