Gary Lewis Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 Steve - I've linked the e-brake TSB to your page. I re-read the BBB user agreement and don't feel good downloading things from their site and then posting it on ours. Today I added these TSB's: 83-14-1 UNDERHOOD PRODUCTION STAMP RELOCATION 83-13-7 CORRECT OIL FILL LEVEL 83-13-8 RTV SEALANT - NEW MATERIAL 83-13-22 ELECTRIC MIRROR LOOSE GLASS 83-13-4 SHEET METAL WELDING PROCEDURES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Today I added these TSB's: 83-14-1 UNDERHOOD PRODUCTION STAMP RELOCATION 83-13-7 CORRECT OIL FILL LEVEL 83-13-8 RTV SEALANT - NEW MATERIAL 83-13-22 ELECTRIC MIRROR LOOSE GLASS 83-13-4 SHEET METAL WELDING PROCEDURES Today I added these TSB's, and I think I'm now caught up with what you sent, Steve. But, I'm getting ready to take about a week off, so if you want to hold off on sending more that's fine. Or, if you do I'll put them in the Unprocessed folder. And we now have 51 TSB's in our quiver. So, maybe 1/20th or 5% of the way "there"? 81-6-19 COLD DRIVEAWAY PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENTS 81-6-20 PISTON SLAP DURING COLD DRIVEAWAY 81-6-21 POWER VALVE VACUUM HOSE 81-7-23 SEAT BELTS BECOME TOO TIGHT 81-7-24 TEMPERATURE CONTROL CABLE TOO LONG 81-7-25 CLUTCH SHUDDER/CHATTER IN REVERSE 81-7-26 MISSING SHIMS ON SROD 82-25-16(S) UPSHIFT INDICATOR LIGHT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve83 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Today I added these TSB's, and I think I'm now caught up with what you sent, Steve. But, I'm getting ready to take about a week off, so if you want to hold off on sending more that's fine. Or, if you do I'll put them in the Unprocessed folder. And we now have 51 TSB's in our quiver. So, maybe 1/20th or 5% of the way "there"? 81-6-19 COLD DRIVEAWAY PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENTS 81-6-20 PISTON SLAP DURING COLD DRIVEAWAY 81-6-21 POWER VALVE VACUUM HOSE 81-7-23 SEAT BELTS BECOME TOO TIGHT 81-7-24 TEMPERATURE CONTROL CABLE TOO LONG 81-7-25 CLUTCH SHUDDER/CHATTER IN REVERSE 81-7-26 MISSING SHIMS ON SROD 82-25-16(S) UPSHIFT INDICATOR LIGHT It appears you've decided NOT to stick with 2 digits per group in the TSB numbers. Back when I started collecting them, Windows (maybe Win2K) sorted file names by simple numeric/alphabetic order. So when I went looking for TSBs on my HDD, it would put (for example) 83-3-15 after 83-30-5 (because 8331# comes after 8330#). To keep them ordered, I changed them to 83-03-15 and 83-30-05. But now, most OSs sort more intuitively (more humanly), so it may not be as important. But I think you should still pick your standard & keep it. The ones listed in your first post on this page ARE 2-digit groups; the ones right above this post aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 It appears you've decided NOT to stick with 2 digits per group in the TSB numbers. Back when I started collecting them, Windows (maybe Win2K) sorted file names by simple numeric/alphabetic order. So when I went looking for TSBs on my HDD, it would put (for example) 83-3-15 after 83-30-5 (because 8331# comes after 8330#). To keep them ordered, I changed them to 83-03-15 and 83-30-05. But now, most OSs sort more intuitively (more humanly), so it may not be as important. But I think you should still pick your standard & keep it. The ones listed in your first post on this page ARE 2-digit groups; the ones right above this post aren't. Yes, I decided to enter them the way Ford did it on the TSB's themselves as well as the indices. The issue came up when I tried to find one of the TSB's I'd just entered. The search function won't find the TSB unless you put it in exactly the way Ford did. And, since most people will probably enter it the way Ford used it, I changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Yes, I decided to enter them the way Ford did it on the TSB's themselves as well as the indices. The issue came up when I tried to find one of the TSB's I'd just entered. The search function won't find the TSB unless you put it in exactly the way Ford did. And, since most people will probably enter it the way Ford used it, I changed. Also, I should note that Darin/Oz Econoline purchased a number of Ford pub's and had them shipped to me for scanning. I got to looking yesterday and discovered that 3 TSB booklets were included: 80-20; 21; and 22. So I've added them to the TSB bulletin list and will scan them sometime soon. In addition, and not really w/in the subject matter, but I thought I'd pass on what some of the other are: Three booklets I've not seen before: Light Truck Roadability Diagnosis Guide; 1980 Truck Service Highlights - Electrical; and 1980 Truck Service Highlights - Chassis. And another book I've not seen - 1980 Emission Systems Schematics and Diagnostic Specifications. This one is interesting because it has very detailed info on every calibration code used by Ford in 1980. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve83 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Also, I should note that Darin/Oz Econoline purchased a number of Ford pub's and had them shipped to me for scanning. I got to looking yesterday and discovered that 3 TSB booklets were included: 80-20; 21; and 22. So I've added them to the TSB bulletin list and will scan them sometime soon. In addition, and not really w/in the subject matter, but I thought I'd pass on what some of the other are: Three booklets I've not seen before: Light Truck Roadability Diagnosis Guide; 1980 Truck Service Highlights - Electrical; and 1980 Truck Service Highlights - Chassis. And another book I've not seen - 1980 Emission Systems Schematics and Diagnostic Specifications. This one is interesting because it has very detailed info on every calibration code used by Ford in 1980. 83-8A-05 Spring Codes https://drive.google.com/open?id=16j7lW2Atz-Dv20lkhujX7lZiRTF4nTNq 83-08-14 Distributor Alignment https://drive.google.com/open?id=18Txg6dwssO27Dsg_ntG22y7JUAsZEDRb 83-04-20 SROD https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PZfrC7gXOTIwb97ZyjrSJbX5aorsKW80 83-04-21 T-19 Diagram https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jzgBg5je0lCX3uUE-Qc-v4agk1E1YaAM 83-04-24 Oil Pressure Chafe https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_D7ETH0ezmqSFPudn1oGE0u5uERGoqOd Emissions Glossary https://drive.google.com/open?id=11z9T-s-ECjkRfLkal3ihl6WnpTpQi-MP 84-03-08 Radio https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xZlABTRJ-wmkB6fA-W1Or2qUevUJMgyx 84-12-22 Cowl Screen https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GI76MAus_0-iPCK5HB4XdV_a4usDqKfR 84-15-09 Battery Drain https://drive.google.com/open?id=15oHDDFiIbZPzqAjUmK9PJ4jKnpZhCkMj 84-17-21 300ci Harmonic Balancer https://drive.google.com/open?id=13kJZEYBPuVIvY6XQmZOyKFsl7dNHM_ou 84-17-20 Choke Tube https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jqkKhyMsaD_LA4JxbHjgPfmBal75sFgP 84-18-21 4V Carburetor https://drive.google.com/open?id=11LWx6KhALkIKhUWvhylUteiR__DlPtHG 84-19-16 Bronco T/G Motor https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G7xJEsF97qqm41XH2aJpIEg_NrX1lBps 84-19-13 Adaptive Strategy https://drive.google.com/open?id=145iod6ocoxqcdaFL1lQ6UYwuxYPXjbro 84-19-9 IAC & Injector https://drive.google.com/open?id=18wrLeevklpGBAmzmv2Ek7cCNOFqNHlOI 84-20-06 AOD https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ece5PuPdooKLPIn6vCj78fjqxWyUSRj0 84-23-12 Crossmember https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WH_n9wwVQoUeuJxE6QD6Chfsg6pGN_qQ 84-23-01 E-core Coil https://drive.google.com/open?id=16j_hKKNmTUyWl8fdxC7cxfWOUppu-Sxy 84-23-11 MAP https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Q-2EzUTjQU2yj3hHdtxbf2T-N0yQbjjT 84-23-09 & -10 T19 https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rjOFcx0V0kVN75bmYocvkn0AAL1cOlbQ The spring codes are not specifically applicable to F150s, but I thought the TSB was interesting. The Bronco t/g templates are not included because they were too large to scan in 1 piece, and they MUST be printed original-size to be useful, so I'll upload a new version to SuperMotors to augment this non-scaled version: https://www.supermotors.net/registry/media/831128_1 But the whole idea of that TSB is dumb, and I don't think anyone should ever do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 83-8A-05 Spring Codes https://drive.google.com/open?id=16j7lW2Atz-Dv20lkhujX7lZiRTF4nTNq 83-08-14 Distributor Alignment https://drive.google.com/open?id=18Txg6dwssO27Dsg_ntG22y7JUAsZEDRb 83-04-20 SROD https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PZfrC7gXOTIwb97ZyjrSJbX5aorsKW80 83-04-21 T-19 Diagram https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jzgBg5je0lCX3uUE-Qc-v4agk1E1YaAM 83-04-24 Oil Pressure Chafe https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_D7ETH0ezmqSFPudn1oGE0u5uERGoqOd Emissions Glossary https://drive.google.com/open?id=11z9T-s-ECjkRfLkal3ihl6WnpTpQi-MP 84-03-08 Radio https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xZlABTRJ-wmkB6fA-W1Or2qUevUJMgyx 84-12-22 Cowl Screen https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GI76MAus_0-iPCK5HB4XdV_a4usDqKfR 84-15-09 Battery Drain https://drive.google.com/open?id=15oHDDFiIbZPzqAjUmK9PJ4jKnpZhCkMj 84-17-21 300ci Harmonic Balancer https://drive.google.com/open?id=13kJZEYBPuVIvY6XQmZOyKFsl7dNHM_ou 84-17-20 Choke Tube https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jqkKhyMsaD_LA4JxbHjgPfmBal75sFgP 84-18-21 4V Carburetor https://drive.google.com/open?id=11LWx6KhALkIKhUWvhylUteiR__DlPtHG 84-19-16 Bronco T/G Motor https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G7xJEsF97qqm41XH2aJpIEg_NrX1lBps 84-19-13 Adaptive Strategy https://drive.google.com/open?id=145iod6ocoxqcdaFL1lQ6UYwuxYPXjbro 84-19-9 IAC & Injector https://drive.google.com/open?id=18wrLeevklpGBAmzmv2Ek7cCNOFqNHlOI 84-20-06 AOD https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ece5PuPdooKLPIn6vCj78fjqxWyUSRj0 84-23-12 Crossmember https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WH_n9wwVQoUeuJxE6QD6Chfsg6pGN_qQ 84-23-01 E-core Coil https://drive.google.com/open?id=16j_hKKNmTUyWl8fdxC7cxfWOUppu-Sxy 84-23-11 MAP https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Q-2EzUTjQU2yj3hHdtxbf2T-N0yQbjjT 84-23-09 & -10 T19 https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rjOFcx0V0kVN75bmYocvkn0AAL1cOlbQ The spring codes are not specifically applicable to F150s, but I thought the TSB was interesting. The Bronco t/g templates are not included because they were too large to scan in 1 piece, and they MUST be printed original-size to be useful, so I'll upload a new version to SuperMotors to augment this non-scaled version: https://www.supermotors.net/registry/media/831128_1 But the whole idea of that TSB is dumb, and I don't think anyone should ever do it. Thanks, Steve. I've downloaded and saved all of those files in my Unprocessed folder. And between us we have 39 TSB's in there that haven't been put up on the website. But, since that is a slow and tedious process I'm saving doing that until I have some in-the-arm-chair time, like Super Bowl Sunday. Also, I've just been contacted by an individual that has these TSBs that he wants to donate: 9/74-1/78, 1978-1979, 1980-1981, 1982-1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990,1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, and a couple of index books. They are in 23 binders and he estimates that collectively they weigh ~275 lbs. Shipping was going to be expensive, but he has a friend that is going to be driving through Oklahoma in about 10 days and he thinks he will bring them. So, if this comes about we should have ALL of the TSBs we'd ever need. And I'll have my work cut out for me to scan all of them and get them on the website. The enormity of this project is overwhelming. When we started the website had about 500 pages. We now have over 550 as each TSB takes a page. So, if there are 1000 TSBs then we'll have 1500 pages to the site when this project is done - without adding other pages. But, I think there's a hidden problem - the menu system won't support having that many things nested under each of the headings. For instance, assuming an even distribution, each of Ford's 9 categories (Body/Windnoise/Leaks/Trim, etc) will have over 100 TSBs nested under it. I'm wondering if we need to change the indexing to have TSBs nested by year and by date/bulletin. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 Thanks, Steve. I've downloaded and saved all of those files in my Unprocessed folder. And between us we have 39 TSB's in there that haven't been put up on the website. But, since that is a slow and tedious process I'm saving doing that until I have some in-the-arm-chair time, like Super Bowl Sunday. Also, I've just been contacted by an individual that has these TSBs that he wants to donate: 9/74-1/78, 1978-1979, 1980-1981, 1982-1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990,1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, and a couple of index books. They are in 23 binders and he estimates that collectively they weigh ~275 lbs. Shipping was going to be expensive, but he has a friend that is going to be driving through Oklahoma in about 10 days and he thinks he will bring them. So, if this comes about we should have ALL of the TSBs we'd ever need. And I'll have my work cut out for me to scan all of them and get them on the website. The enormity of this project is overwhelming. When we started the website had about 500 pages. We now have over 550 as each TSB takes a page. So, if there are 1000 TSBs then we'll have 1500 pages to the site when this project is done - without adding other pages. But, I think there's a hidden problem - the menu system won't support having that many things nested under each of the headings. For instance, assuming an even distribution, each of Ford's 9 categories (Body/Windnoise/Leaks/Trim, etc) will have over 100 TSBs nested under it. I'm wondering if we need to change the indexing to have TSBs nested by year and by date/bulletin. Thoughts? On second thought, the idea of going to a by-year instead of a by-category scheme isn't much help as there aren't that many more years involved than categories. If we assume that the bulk of the TSB's will have been issued during 1980 - 89 , then there would only be 10 years to spread the ~1,000 TSB's across instead of the 9 categories, and that's not much help. However, perhaps if we use the bulletin dates as a second layer it would help, although we'll still have ~25 bulletins nested under each year, and there's really no rhyme nor reason as to why a TSB is in a given bulletin, so that doesn't help anyone find them. In fact, it actually makes it worse. So I'm still at a loss as to how to categorize 1,000 TSB's. Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve83 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 On second thought, the idea of going to a by-year instead of a by-category scheme isn't much help as there aren't that many more years involved than categories. If we assume that the bulk of the TSB's will have been issued during 1980 - 89 , then there would only be 10 years to spread the ~1,000 TSB's across instead of the 9 categories, and that's not much help. However, perhaps if we use the bulletin dates as a second layer it would help, although we'll still have ~25 bulletins nested under each year, and there's really no rhyme nor reason as to why a TSB is in a given bulletin, so that doesn't help anyone find them. In fact, it actually makes it worse. So I'm still at a loss as to how to categorize 1,000 TSB's. Any help would be appreciated. Again - I know nothing about building websites... But I'd imagine just storing each TSB on its own page somewhere. Then have a page with a search menu (similar to BBB's) above a long list of TSB links in numerical order with titles & descriptions. So someone could use the search to find TSBs with keywords of interest, or use the menu to bring up a smaller group of applicable TSBs (using categories that you set up), or just scroll down the page to see all ~1,000 links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 Again - I know nothing about building websites... But I'd imagine just storing each TSB on its own page somewhere. Then have a page with a search menu (similar to BBB's) above a long list of TSB links in numerical order with titles & descriptions. So someone could use the search to find TSBs with keywords of interest, or use the menu to bring up a smaller group of applicable TSBs (using categories that you set up), or just scroll down the page to see all ~1,000 links. I have the ability to hide a page from the menu. So that would constitute "just storing each TSB on its own page somewhere". In other words, the TSB's would be on the website but not accessible via the menu. Is that what you meant? And we sorta have the "page with a search menu (similar to BBB's) above a long list of TSB links in numerical order with titles & descriptions" in the form of the index spreadsheet. However, it doesn't have the TSB's in numerical order. Instead it has them in alpha order within each of Ford's 9 categories. And, we have the search function. In the example below, which is the first 26 entries in the index spreadsheet, I've hit Control-F and brought up the search function within the browser - just like the instructions at the top of the page say. And I've typed in the word "improperly" and the computer says there are 2 instances of that word in the index, and it has highlighted the first instance in orange. Plus, you can cycle to them with the up/down arrows. (And if you type in "transmission" it'll currently find 136 instances of that, although as we add TSB's that aren't yet in the index that count will go up.) So here's what I propose: We hide all TSB pages but the index spreadsheet from the menu. So when you hit TSB's in the menu you'll find the index and can search for what you need, like a key word in the description or the TSB # if you know that. Does that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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