Dyn Blin Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 That sounds like fun. I definitely could use brighter headlights! Sounds like redoing the electrical system may be in order. How difficult and time consuming is it to put in relays? I want to do it but I don't want to tear it apart and get lost or stuck somewhere with a truck w/o headlights. Also I'll read up on voltage drop testing and try that out too! -- As for electrical I just remembered I wanted to ask you about this: I was looking at the voltage regulator trying to troubleshoot the charge light the other night. There are four "ports" on the voltage regulator, but there are five wires coming out -- two from the "A" port -- and one of those (orange wire) ends with what looks like a rubber heat shrink connector and nothing on the end of it. Is this supposed to connect to something? The rest of the wires go into a wrapped harness towards the alternator. I think the "I" wire is the idiot light. It showed 12 volts with the key in run but I couldn't make the light turn on by grounding it. One nice thing about a relay set up is that if one should fail (something that's never happened to me in 25 years of running similar set ups in other cars and motorcycles), you can simply unplug them and plug you original back in. Although they are not complicated to fabricate, there are ready-made plug-and-play solutions out there for our trucks that have quality materials likely far less expensive that might be sourced for a oneoff project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can0fspam Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 Sorry, I misunderstood. At this point I like Vinny's idea - check the headlight grounds. Went and voltage drop tested the headlight grounds: I found between 0.08 volts and 0.25 volts of voltage drop between the headlight ground pins and the battery terminal, with headlights and high beams running and engine off. On the passenger side, I found that that voltage drop was almost halved if I measured the drop from the pin to the fender rather than from the pin to the battery. So it seems that my headlight and chassis ground cables are all only a little iffy. I might try to clean the contact surfaces a little, but it seems my problem would be fixed more if I did the relay conversion since my voltage drop was below the general 0.4 volts and only slightly above your 0.2 volts spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve83 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Went and voltage drop tested the headlight grounds: I found between 0.08 volts and 0.25 volts of voltage drop between the headlight ground pins and the battery terminal, with headlights and high beams running and engine off. On the passenger side, I found that that voltage drop was almost halved if I measured the drop from the pin to the fender rather than from the pin to the battery. So it seems that my headlight and chassis ground cables are all only a little iffy. I might try to clean the contact surfaces a little, but it seems my problem would be fixed more if I did the relay conversion since my voltage drop was below the general 0.4 volts and only slightly above your 0.2 volts spec. A relay on the +12V side won't have any effect on the voltage drop on the ground side. To fix that, simply run Copper wire from the factory ground point directly to the battery (-) terminal, or one of the other terminals on that cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Went and voltage drop tested the headlight grounds: I found between 0.08 volts and 0.25 volts of voltage drop between the headlight ground pins and the battery terminal, with headlights and high beams running and engine off. On the passenger side, I found that that voltage drop was almost halved if I measured the drop from the pin to the fender rather than from the pin to the battery. So it seems that my headlight and chassis ground cables are all only a little iffy. I might try to clean the contact surfaces a little, but it seems my problem would be fixed more if I did the relay conversion since my voltage drop was below the general 0.4 volts and only slightly above your 0.2 volts spec. can0fspam - Yes, you should work on the ground problem. It isn't bad, but it isn't good. And as Steve suggested, a wire from the headlight to the battery ground. But, if you buy a headlight relay harness, it should have a ground wire that will give you that opportunity. So instead of fixing the ground issue now, I'd go for the harness and fix it then. And this ground issue is why in later models Ford added a bunch of ground wires. Using the body's sheet metal and the fasteners that hold those pieces together as the ground path was problematic. It was probably adequate the day the truck rolled off the assembly line, but started downhill from that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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