Gary Lewis Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 1984 - 1986 for the 49 state calibration [i believe]. Others have reported that California models may have come earlier. So, since the format is what changed when, I should say that the feedback carb was introduced on the 4.9L in '84 on the 49-states version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 So, since the format is what changed when, I should say that the feedback carb was introduced on the 4.9L in '84 on the 49-states version? Yes, my son's original 1984 still has the complete feedback system. As far as I know, this is when the change was introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARIAT 85 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Thanks, Rick. Please see if you agree with the changes I made: Bullnose FAQ's. Also, because of your meddling/upgrade () I added a page: Electrical/Ignition Modules. I wanted to see if I could figure out the EEC-III and EEC-IV system introduction dates, but didn't really do so. Looks good, Chief. Except: The EEC-IV equipped engines didn't use a yellow grommet module. They used the TFI = Thick Film Integrated ignition system, which has the ignition module bolted to the side of the distributor that works with a Motorcraft 2150A = "feedback" carburetor. Capiche? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 Looks good, Chief. Except: The EEC-IV equipped engines didn't use a yellow grommet module. They used the TFI = Thick Film Integrated ignition system, which has the ignition module bolted to the side of the distributor that works with a Motorcraft 2150A = "feedback" carburetor. Capiche? Ok, I added that the 4.9L got the feedback carb in '84, fixed the TFI to be thick, and added the A to the 2150. Right? Is that all ya got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARIAT 85 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Ok, I added that the 4.9L got the feedback carb in '84, fixed the TFI to be thick, and added the A to the 2150. Right? Is that all ya got? I *think* the EEC-III was used from 1981 - 1983 on California models. These used a brown grommet module and the standard DuraSpark II coil with a feedback carburetor. Ralph (1981-F-150-Explorer) had this system on his truck. Also, according to my 1984 Ford F-Series brochure, there was not a "Lariat" model. The top-of-the line model this year was simply called the XLT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 I *think* the EEC-III was used from 1981 - 1983 on California models. These used a brown grommet module and the standard DuraSpark II coil with a feedback carburetor. Ralph (1981-F-150-Explorer) had this system on his truck. Also, according to my 1984 Ford F-Series brochure, there was not a "Lariat" model. The top-of-the line model this year was simply called the XLT. You, sir, are correct. Here's the catalog entry for the EEC-III computer. And, I added the bit about the Lariat coming out in '85 to the FAQ's page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford F834 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Ok, I added that the 4.9L got the feedback carb in '84, fixed the TFI to be thick, and added the A to the 2150. Right? Is that all ya got? Gary, this was in my local yard... 1982 F150 with feedback I-6: The other '82 I-6's I've seen were not feedback, but by 1983 it seems to have been standard. Ralph had some pretty good information in this thread: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1068301-what-year-did-they-start-using-computers.html On a slightly different note, there is a Norwegian guy on Facebook looking for a flareside to make into a XLS clone. He says he does not want a 1980 because the metal was not galvanized where as 1981+ was. This is the first I have heard of such a thing. Any comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARIAT 85 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 You, sir, are correct. Here's the catalog entry for the EEC-III computer. And, I added the bit about the Lariat coming out in '85 to the FAQ's page. 1986F150Six is correct. I looked at my 1984 brochure again, and it states: "...the 4.9L Six is now controlled by the sophisticated EEC-IV electronic engine control system." So, it seems that that both the 4.9L Six and the 5.8L V8 (2V) got the EEC-IV system with a feedback carburetor for 1984. No mention of the 5.0L V8 (2V) having the EEC-IV engine computer that year. It was mentioned in the early 1985 brochure, though. There *was* a "Lariat" model in 1982 and 1983. Apparently, Ford dropped that name in 1984, and then brought it back out for 1985 and 1986. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 1986F150Six is correct. I looked at my 1984 brochure again, and it states: "...the 4.9L Six is now controlled by the sophisticated EEC-IV electronic engine control system." So, it seems that that both the 4.9L Six and the 5.8L V8 (2V) got the EEC-IV system with a feedback carburetor for 1984. No mention of the 5.0L V8 (2V) having the EEC-IV engine computer that year. It was mentioned in the early 1985 brochure, though. There *was* a "Lariat" model in 1982 and 1983. Apparently, Ford dropped that name in 1984, and then brought it back out for 1985 and 1986. Strange. Interesting. I do have the '81 brochure and there was a Ranger Lariat. In the '82 brochure there was a Lariat w/o the Ranger since that was a small truck. Wish I had 1983, 1984, and 1986 brochures. Anyway, I updated the FAQ's drop the Lariat in '84. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARIAT 85 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Interesting. I do have the '81 brochure and there was a Ranger Lariat. In the '82 brochure there was a Lariat w/o the Ranger since that was a small truck. Wish I had 1983, 1984, and 1986 brochures. Anyway, I updated the FAQ's drop the Lariat in '84. Another change you can add to your "Yearly Differences" tab: In 1986, the lights on/door open "buzzer" changed to a "chime" for the XL and XLT Lariat models. The standard pickup carried on with the buzzer. (source: 1986 Ford F-Series brochure) I noticed that you list 1983 as the year the "Lariat" name was dropped. How did you find this out? And, I wonder why that name wasn't used for 1983 and 1984? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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