Littlebeefy Posted August 8, 2023 Author Share Posted August 8, 2023 Chad - Rene is in Europe and is looking for a way to upgrade his brakes, as explained in his 1986 Bronco Break Upgrade thread. Might you want to discuss this with him? He should have the D44 TTB. Rene - I'm tagging you because Chad/Littlebeefy is working on a brake upgrade that you might be interested in. Thanks, Gary! @ReneH - I read your recent brake questions (I had also been keeping up with your stroker build!) and I have a little info for you to consider. First off, you are right that light peddle braking for a sustained period will build up more heat than intermittent, harder braking. Second, larger rotors will have more thermal mass and surface area and will take longer to heat and will cool quicker. That’s true whether the rotors have a bigger diameter or if the are thicker (thicker rotors have more surface area in the vanes). Aluminum calipers also bleed off heat better than steel but can get pricey due to the materials and complexity in manufacturing. They have the added benefit of being lighter to reduce unsprung weight but I don’t think that’s important to you. I would be willing to build a brake kit for you using our massive dual piston calipers and larger rotors. They are comparable to the brakes that come standard in modern half ton trucks. I would need to build it here as a prototype and send it to you in Germany (but would need you to handle the shipping and customs). I would guarantee fitment and you wouldn’t have to pay for it until it’s ready to ship. I would ask that you give all of us feedback on your installation and performance. If you’re interested and want to work out details you can email me directly at chad@hugebrakes.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351FUN Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Thanks, Gary! @ReneH - I read your recent brake questions (I had also been keeping up with your stroker build!) and I have a little info for you to consider. First off, you are right that light peddle braking for a sustained period will build up more heat than intermittent, harder braking. Second, larger rotors will have more thermal mass and surface area and will take longer to heat and will cool quicker. That’s true whether the rotors have a bigger diameter or if the are thicker (thicker rotors have more surface area in the vanes). Aluminum calipers also bleed off heat better than steel but can get pricey due to the materials and complexity in manufacturing. They have the added benefit of being lighter to reduce unsprung weight but I don’t think that’s important to you. I would be willing to build a brake kit for you using our massive dual piston calipers and larger rotors. They are comparable to the brakes that come standard in modern half ton trucks. I would need to build it here as a prototype and send it to you in Germany (but would need you to handle the shipping and customs). I would guarantee fitment and you wouldn’t have to pay for it until it’s ready to ship. I would ask that you give all of us feedback on your installation and performance. If you’re interested and want to work out details you can email me directly at chad@hugebrakes.com. The site is one of the ones randomly blocked at work. How large a wheel do you have to run with this kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebeefy Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 The site is one of the ones randomly blocked at work. How large a wheel do you have to run with this kit? We know it will fit with 17s. We haven't tried anything smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351FUN Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 We know it will fit with 17s. We haven't tried anything smaller. That's actually really great. If a ttb kit comes out I'd love some measurements, fitting a 17" alloy usually means fitting a 16" steel wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebeefy Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 Good news for you D44 TTB owners. We are rapidly developing a Huge Brakes kit for your trucks. It will still use the 13.25" rotors and the massive twin 54mm/56mm piston calipers. It will require grinding the caliper brackets off your knuckles but we will have a core exchange option to send you knuckles that are already modified to fit. I will post pictures here as development progresses, so stay tuned. We have had a couple of installations on the D44HP already and the braking is phenomenal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Good news for you D44 TTB owners. We are rapidly developing a Huge Brakes kit for your trucks. It will still use the 13.25" rotors and the massive twin 54mm/56mm piston calipers. It will require grinding the caliper brackets off your knuckles but we will have a core exchange option to send you knuckles that are already modified to fit. I will post pictures here as development progresses, so stay tuned. We have had a couple of installations on the D44HP already and the braking is phenomenal! Sounds good, Chad. Rene - I'm tagging you given your plan to order parts for the front brakes on your Bronco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneH Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Sounds good, Chad. Rene - I'm tagging you given your plan to order parts for the front brakes on your Bronco. Thanks for this Gary. What Chad posted sounds very good. I'll stay in contact with him when I start to re-new my front breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Thanks for this Gary. What Chad posted sounds very good. I'll stay in contact with him when I start to re-new my front breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneH Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Ok...it seems that new front breaks will be needed faster than expected...or at least new pads... It seems to me, that this pad is broken and some parts are missing...it also seems not in place anymore... May the have caused by driving down the San Bernadino pass that caused the breaks boiling, what's caused by very, very weak rear breaks? On the TÜV, the have made some full-stops on the brake test bench...that may have caused over-stress to the already by over-heat damaged pads...so that's my theory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Ok...it seems that new front breaks will be needed faster than expected...or at least new pads... It seems to me, that this pad is broken and some parts are missing...it also seems not in place anymore... May the have caused by driving down the San Bernadino pass that caused the breaks boiling, what's caused by very, very weak rear breaks? On the TÜV, the have made some full-stops on the brake test bench...that may have caused over-stress to the already by over-heat damaged pads...so that's my theory... Hard to tell from the pics, but I'll take your word for it. And yes, getting the pads extra hot can cause problems, not only with the pads but with the rotors, causing them to warp - which gives a pulsing feel to the pedal. But those pads may work until you can get the larger brakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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