Rembrant Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I made a run to the Pick N Pull junkyard today to hunt around for Bullnose stuff, but mainly because I was looking for one of these air ducts below. I did not find one, so figured while I'm here I'd ask if anybody happens to have one laying around collecting dust that they'll part with? I found only one Bullnose there, and it was a badly rusted '86 4x2 with 300/6 and NP435. I'm going to go back and scavenge some parts off this thing, but wanted to confirm before I do: Will the DSII ignition box from this truck work on my 1984 302? If yes, I'll grab it for a spare. I found this 2-tone blue and silver '96 F150 that was almost 100% intact. The truck looked pretty good at a glance, but the frame was gone. My curiosity with this truck was mostly the interior. Is the bench seat in this '96 a direct swap-in to my '84? I'm not sure I want it, but was curious. What I am interested in is the rubber floor. This being a regular cab 5spd truck, I'm wondering if the '96 mat will fit in my '84? I'd have to cut the hole for the high beam light switch I think, but otherwise it should fit, no? And, while on the topic of this '96 F150, did all of the OBS bench seats have the bracket or connection for the cup-holder that sits on the floor? I forgot to look when I was there. Is this something that can be fitted on to my 1984 bench seat if I find one? Next question is simply for curiosity sake. There was this 1996 2wd F350 there, with a 300/6, and manual trans. This thing would have the ZF5 in it, correct? But by this time, without cable speedo? And finally, this ignition box below...would this be a candidate for a spare for my truck? It is in a 1981 Mustang with 302. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaSteve Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I have a seat from a 96 in my 86 and it was a direct swap. I don't know about the floor mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now trying to catch up after the show..... David/1986F150Six has one of those cold air ducts. He was trying to sell it at the show but didn't, so contact him. On the ignition box question, if your box has a blue grommet then any blue-grommet box will work. As for the seat, yes I do think it'll fit, as Steve said. They did change the floor somewhat in the mid-90's, but I don't know when. However, some of those trucks had a taller transmission cover for the E4OD or ZF5, and the floor covering, meaning carpet or mat, will be a bit too tall in the center - unless you use the taller transmission cover, which should bolt on yours. Don't know about the cup holder bracket. As for the ZF5, I do believe an F350 would have had one. However, I do not know about the speedo setup. I say that because Ford ran an adapter for several years that had an electric output as well as a cable output, and I don't know what years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now trying to catch up after the show..... David/1986F150Six has one of those cold air ducts. He was trying to sell it at the show but didn't, so contact him. On the ignition box question, if your box has a blue grommet then any blue-grommet box will work. As for the seat, yes I do think it'll fit, as Steve said. They did change the floor somewhat in the mid-90's, but I don't know when. However, some of those trucks had a taller transmission cover for the E4OD or ZF5, and the floor covering, meaning carpet or mat, will be a bit too tall in the center - unless you use the taller transmission cover, which should bolt on yours. Don't know about the cup holder bracket. As for the ZF5, I do believe an F350 would have had one. However, I do not know about the speedo setup. I say that because Ford ran an adapter for several years that had an electric output as well as a cable output, and I don't know what years. Thanks Gary I just sent David an email (I think, lol). Working from my phone today;) Planning to go back to the junkyard in a couple days to scavenge for parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Thanks Gary I just sent David an email (I think, lol). Working from my phone today;) Planning to go back to the junkyard in a couple days to scavenge for parts. He's driving today back to Alabama. So he probably won't see your email until tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford F834 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The seat will fit, but sit in it first and see what you think. I don’t like the 92+ seats. They feel thin and flimsy like a Japanese economy car compared to the 80-91 seats. Good, older seats are getting tough to find though. The floor mat after 1987 will be the kind for the taller transmission cover. If you get the mat, I’d get the tunnel cover with it. I don’t know all the gory details on mechanical speedometers but I don’t think there would be one on a ‘96. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 The seat will fit, but sit in it first and see what you think. I don’t like the 92+ seats. They feel thin and flimsy like a Japanese economy car compared to the 80-91 seats. Good, older seats are getting tough to find though. The floor mat after 1987 will be the kind for the taller transmission cover. If you get the mat, I’d get the tunnel cover with it. I don’t know all the gory details on mechanical speedometers but I don’t think there would be one on a ‘96. Oh, I already have the tall 5spd cover from a 90’s truck so I was thinking it should be a food fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARIAT 85 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The seat will fit, but sit in it first and see what you think. I don’t like the 92+ seats. They feel thin and flimsy like a Japanese economy car compared to the 80-91 seats. Good, older seats are getting tough to find though. The floor mat after 1987 will be the kind for the taller transmission cover. If you get the mat, I’d get the tunnel cover with it. I don’t know all the gory details on mechanical speedometers but I don’t think there would be one on a ‘96. I have a 1989 seat in Lucille, and it was a direct fit without any modifications. 1987 - 1991 trucks used a different seat than the 1992 - 1996 trucks. If you are considering a cloth XLT/Lariat seat, both styles had higher backs than the 1980 - 1986 seats and a flip-down armrest. 1992 - 1994 seats have adjustable headrests, while the 1995/1996 seats have much taller, fixed headrests. I agree with Ford834 - I didn't like the 1992+ seats as much as the earlier 1987 - 1991 style seat for the same reasons he mentioned. I did make one modification to my 1989 seat: I added the 1992+ cupholder. These can easily be used on the earlier 1987 - 1991 style seat. The cupholder uses special bolts that screw into the center of the seat to mount it. This enables the cupholder to move with the seat: There were two different styles of cupholders used: One has a single cupholder and an open rectangle storage bin beside it, and the other has two deeper cupholders and a map pocket in the front. The former was used on vehicles with manual transmissions and/or 4x4 trucks with the floor lever, and the latter was used on automatic transmission vehicles and 4x2 trucks or 4x4 trucks without the floor lever. While you are at it, you may want to consider using the 1987 - 1996 style visors with the clips. Also, a 1987 - 1991 style cowl panel. Both designs are a direct fit and an improvement over the 1980 - 1986 versions.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 I have a 1989 seat in Lucille, and it was a direct fit without any modifications. 1987 - 1991 trucks used a different seat than the 1992 - 1996 trucks. If you are considering a cloth XLT/Lariat seat, both styles had higher backs than the 1980 - 1986 seats and a flip-down armrest. 1992 - 1994 seats have adjustable headrests, while the 1995/1996 seats have much taller, fixed headrests. I agree with Ford834 - I didn't like the 1992+ seats as much as the earlier 1987 - 1991 style seat for the same reasons he mentioned. I did make one modification to my 1989 seat: I added the 1992+ cupholder. These can easily be used on the earlier 1987 - 1991 style seat. The cupholder uses special bolts that screw into the center of the seat to mount it. This enables the cupholder to move with the seat: There were two different styles of cupholders used: One has a single cupholder and an open rectangle storage bin beside it, and the other has two deeper cupholders and a map pocket in the front. The former was used on vehicles with manual transmissions and/or 4x4 trucks with the floor lever, and the latter was used on automatic transmission vehicles and 4x2 trucks or 4x4 trucks without the floor lever. While you are at it, you may want to consider using the 1987 - 1996 style visors with the clips. Also, a 1987 - 1991 style cowl panel. Both designs are a direct fit and an improvement over the 1980 - 1986 versions. Thanks for the seat info guys. I'm wanting one of those cup holders...I guess that's what piqued my interest on the 1996 bench. IT happened to be blue, which would match my truck, but I dislike the look of those high backs. I didn't try sitting in the truck, but I will give it a test when I go back on the weekend. If I come across one of these in blue or black, I may grab it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-1993-1994-1995-1996-Ford-F-150-F-250-F-350-Cup-Holder-Gray/273456637256?hash=item3fab492548:g:yGsAAOSw1SJbjyoU&vxp=mtr Hey Lariat, how stable would one of those cup holders be if it was not attached to the seat? Or...is there a way to attach one to my factory 1984 bench seat? Trying to figure out how to mount one, but without seeing one in person it is a bit hard to tell. I've also seen a factory cup holder(s) that mount around the floor shifter? I'm not real keen on that as it would be too far to reach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARIAT 85 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Thanks for the seat info guys. I'm wanting one of those cup holders...I guess that's what piqued my interest on the 1996 bench. IT happened to be blue, which would match my truck, but I dislike the look of those high backs. I didn't try sitting in the truck, but I will give it a test when I go back on the weekend. If I come across one of these in blue or black, I may grab it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-1993-1994-1995-1996-Ford-F-150-F-250-F-350-Cup-Holder-Gray/273456637256?hash=item3fab492548:g:yGsAAOSw1SJbjyoU&vxp=mtr Hey Lariat, how stable would one of those cup holders be if it was not attached to the seat? Or...is there a way to attach one to my factory 1984 bench seat? Trying to figure out how to mount one, but without seeing one in person it is a bit hard to tell. I've also seen a factory cup holder(s) that mount around the floor shifter? I'm not real keen on that as it would be too far to reach... The cupholders are not very stable if they aren't mounted to the seat. The special Ford bolts also allow for easy removal. You simply pull up on the cupholder to remove it from the seat bolts. I have never seen one in black. The one listed on your link is a great price. I have seen those go for $100 in good condition on Ebay. I would buy it and paint it blue or black. But, I am not sure if it will work if you have a floor shifter. If you refer to my earlier post, models with a floor shifter got the other style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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