dsstephens Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 I am confident I will not be explaining this correctly :) 86 Bronco, XLT, all power, A/C 302 with SD EFI <-orginally, AOD, manual shift transfer case rebuilt to 347 used fiveology racing MAF conversion/EFI kit, which includes a wiring harness overlay 3 years ago...the engine bay wiring harness (this includes the bundle that goes to the 60 pin eec, which had been relocated to the bay in a questionable decision) was trashed. It has sat since at shop "until they got around to it", which was never. I am struggling to find what hiring harness I need. I can get a new overlay from fiveology...but its what it overlays on that is the problem. I found an 87' NOS on Jeff's Graveyard...bought it just in case it might work. I have a painless 5.0 harness NIB (shop bought it but never tried to install it) Truck is in hartwell, ga - i'm just as happy at this point to take it to a shop (haven't tried to locate one), but I think my son (its his truck...) and I can figure it out if we can first figure out what harness we need and locate one. Hence this post. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 So you just need the factory engine harness for the truck as it came off the line? The overlay takes care of the changes from there? Not knowing what the overlay does or doesn't, I think I'd start by calling them and seeing what starting point they are expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsstephens Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 So you just need the factory engine harness for the truck as it came off the line? The overlay takes care of the changes from there? Not knowing what the overlay does or doesn't, I think I'd start by calling them and seeing what starting point they are expecting. That's correct - I need a factory engine harness at it came off the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 That's correct - I need a factory engine harness at it came off the line. To be specific, you need the factory engine harness for a late '85 or '86 302, which was EFI. The changeover from carb to EFI was in late '85 but I think some of the late 85 302's were still carbed. It wasn't until '86 that the carb was dropped on the 302. And the 351W was still carbed. I don't have one, but just wanted people to know exactly what you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 To be specific, you need the factory engine harness for a late '85 or '86 302, which was EFI. The changeover from carb to EFI was in late '85 but I think some of the late 85 302's were still carbed. It wasn't until '86 that the carb was dropped on the 302. And the 351W was still carbed. I don't have one, but just wanted people to know exactly what you are looking for. Not a Bronco and not for F.I., but what has been found so far: https://www.ebay.com/itm/134435697643?hash=item1f4cfdf3eb:g:8KMAAOSwNNljAwGS&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwBiSfRrULwvt8zgfBeoymyc7qguCTerYZMw7OPXRTgwK1y%2BIQY%2Ft%2Byq%2Bg5b2CItyGK11GERAUIzSb1BeOx0GbQ%2BPATGoNA%2BApXj%2BB%2BnwAUMG0dU%2F4hUQr5Vq1HSySz4T5M6Juvq96xI3urSkDs9gAcAnlZ5pbPdCSBCjEjpUvZIGd3T0VHH2WYXoyfJUBvv97DTidULPfT65Oh60S5de6IznIwMShvuSGagY1Po3RNaaIxFKVDOyjw5hzTyRVnMxTA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9aehPbEYQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Not a Bronco and not for F.I., but what has been found so far: https://www.ebay.com/itm/134435697643?hash=item1f4cfdf3eb:g:8KMAAOSwNNljAwGS&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwBiSfRrULwvt8zgfBeoymyc7qguCTerYZMw7OPXRTgwK1y%2BIQY%2Ft%2Byq%2Bg5b2CItyGK11GERAUIzSb1BeOx0GbQ%2BPATGoNA%2BApXj%2BB%2BnwAUMG0dU%2F4hUQr5Vq1HSySz4T5M6Juvq96xI3urSkDs9gAcAnlZ5pbPdCSBCjEjpUvZIGd3T0VHH2WYXoyfJUBvv97DTidULPfT65Oh60S5de6IznIwMShvuSGagY1Po3RNaaIxFKVDOyjw5hzTyRVnMxTA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9aehPbEYQ Here is another but looks to be the same, just listed in another place: https://www.ebay.com/itm/134435697643?hash=item1f4cfdf3eb:g:8KMAAOSwNNljAwGS&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwBiSfRrULwvt8zgfBeoymyc7qguCTerYZMw7OPXRTgwK7i1LEUE2afoBe56Gan4plBhFc9pUGFXl3tIDW7CICGPBPaDZ%2FatE8Ki9KLNbg9HzBmPD1M5WnFJxqr1BRSgMRFXz43OpNYr7a5it4eFY8eobqgGwJymr%2BPETwZrvmmEWJyB8uXnUFEW46dJGQjkYLnVvedTP0oVWfJ12%2Bj%2FJGSy38ihyB7qGxpSgGuzx3abDplPc0%2F3O5CP18foKByS6Ig%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5yhpPbEYQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsstephens Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 Not a Bronco and not for F.I., but what has been found so far: https://www.ebay.com/itm/134435697643?hash=item1f4cfdf3eb:g:8KMAAOSwNNljAwGS&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwBiSfRrULwvt8zgfBeoymyc7qguCTerYZMw7OPXRTgwK1y%2BIQY%2Ft%2Byq%2Bg5b2CItyGK11GERAUIzSb1BeOx0GbQ%2BPATGoNA%2BApXj%2BB%2BnwAUMG0dU%2F4hUQr5Vq1HSySz4T5M6Juvq96xI3urSkDs9gAcAnlZ5pbPdCSBCjEjpUvZIGd3T0VHH2WYXoyfJUBvv97DTidULPfT65Oh60S5de6IznIwMShvuSGagY1Po3RNaaIxFKVDOyjw5hzTyRVnMxTA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9aehPbEYQ Thank you! That one looks about as crusty as mine, but at least it looks like it is in 'one' piece. I have tried to decode what an actual part number would be (eg FZ something something). I've downloaded the master parts catalogs, but I have not finished learning ancient sumerian yet. :) Update: I figured out the MPC (I think) Part#'s listed below E5TZ-14401-W - Underdash wiring harness <- don't really need, since I put in aftermarket gauges and everything else works E5TZ-12A581-BH - Underhood wiring harness <- NEED E6TZ-9D930-C - Fuel Injection wiring harness <- NEED E1TZ-14A318-A - Door window wiring harness <- don't need E1TZ-14A318-B - Door lock wiring harness <- don't need I have found things that look "close" on ronfrancis like this...https://www.ronfrancis.com/product/496 and painless (the 65011 that i have), but am so confused, that I think an original+the overlay is only what makes sense to me. We appreciate the wisdom and links! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Thank you! That one looks about as crusty as mine, but at least it looks like it is in 'one' piece. I have tried to decode what an actual part number would be (eg FZ something something). I've downloaded the master parts catalogs, but I have not finished learning ancient sumerian yet. :) Update: I figured out the MPC (I think) Part#'s listed below E5TZ-14401-W - Underdash wiring harness This is a direct-fit replacement for the injection harness found on 1985 Ford F-150. The harness has the correct dimensions and is finished with correct coverings and harness wrap tape. Includes connections for injectors and oxygen sensor. Fits 302 (5.0) and 351 (5.8) engines. This section of harness connects the injectors and sensors on top of the engine to the main vehicle harness at the back of the engine. Manufactured with factory correct connectors and terminals, quality crosslink automotive grade wire and high temp covering. This matches factory dimensions for easy, trouble-free installation. Note this is not an entire engine harness, it's just the injector portion. https://www.stinger-performance.com/store/injector-harness-5.0-5.8-ford-truck-86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsstephens Posted February 10, 2023 Author Share Posted February 10, 2023 Hmmm? This is a direct-fit replacement for the injection harness found on 1985 Ford F-150. The harness has the correct dimensions and is finished with correct coverings and harness wrap tape. Includes connections for injectors and oxygen sensor. Fits 302 (5.0) and 351 (5.8) engines. This section of harness connects the injectors and sensors on top of the engine to the main vehicle harness at the back of the engine. Manufactured with factory correct connectors and terminals, quality crosslink automotive grade wire and high temp covering. This matches factory dimensions for easy, trouble-free installation. Note this is not an entire engine harness, it's just the injector portion. https://www.stinger-performance.com/store/injector-harness-5.0-5.8-ford-truck-86 Thanks. I had not seen this one despite an inordinate amount of time on the ronfrancis site. This looks like one of the missing pieces for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Thanks. I had not seen this one despite an inordinate amount of time on the ronfrancis site. This looks like one of the missing pieces for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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