Round ends with flat sides is an oval. The shape that is all curves that people often call an oval (but isn't) is an ellipse.Yesterday we went to the Tall Grass Prairie and I noted which roads go where. And now I'm working on creating a map we can use for planning. The one below is an early version and only has two sections on it: GPSKevin's Route: The green markers and the associated A on the KS/OK line to the B is GPSKevin's route - as far as I've plotted it The blue marker and associated A in the lower right is the east end of OK 4220 Road, and the B to the NW is the visitor's center for the Tall Grass Prairie. Then C is Foraker, and D is Newkirk, which was the target for this section of GPSKevin's Section 22. I need to figure out how to color GPSKevin's route something like green and ours blue, or vice versa. Anyone know how to do that on Google Maps? Anyway, I thought this would be a good way to map it out and share it. Thoughts? Oh yes. I was born in Arkansas City, which shows at the top left. And Janey and I lived 12 years in Ponca City, which shows on the lower left. We spent many, MANY hours on Kaw Lake right about where the "y" is of Kaw City. And my brother, who still lives in Arkansas City, has a cabin about where the "77" is north of Newkirk. IOW, that's my stomping grounds.