Kyle_christina

Sorry I should've been more specific. I thought you were selling drivetrain components. I at some point am going to convert my 2x4 to 4x4. If you had any of the drivetrain I would've been interested. At present time I do not need any of the other stuff you have. I really appreciate it though! Kyle

Ohh just all of it lol. I am eventually going to convert it to 4x4. I am by no means in any kind of hurry but if the price is right i would be interested. Thanks anyway!

Sometime ago i started rebuilding my engine harness (86 302 efi) and while doing so am upgrading to a maf setup from a 95 f150. Then i decided i needed to drain all the bad fuel out of the tanks and rebuild the wire harness all the way back to the tail lights.

I know this post is quite old but do you by chance still have the 4x4 components available? If so how much do you want and perhaps more importantly where are you located? I am in iowa so it could be quite a journey someday possibly.

I like soldering because in my field we solder everything for our test equipment. I work for deere and setup tests on our construction and forestry equipment. Anyway our stuff gets rattled and beat to death and the solder joints are almost never the fail point if there is a failure. So it is hard for me to be on the crimp bandwagon too.

I really appreciate you going through the trouble to get that 60 pin connector and other pigtails. Thanks for the feedback about wire size. I am just going to go through and check every wire, document what size it is and order wire accordingly then. I didn't know how much it would affect the way it would run. I was just going off the fact that it ran with all of the butchered wiring the way it was and figured it would still be a night and day difference. I am not going to do any crimping unless it is new pins. I am going to solder all connections together. I know there is a large debate about that too! It seems to be about a 50/50 split with soldering vs crimping.

It is definitely in rough shape. Just about every wire seems to have been fixed at some point by grafting in wire in different places and alot of butt connectors lol. I appreciate your help. I am going to try to document what each wire size is. I found some 18 gauge, 16 and i haven't been able to get back to it yet to see what the rest of it is. My thoughts were to just buy 16 gauge for all of the harness minus the bigger stuff since i am going to be splicing most connectors in anyway. What are your thoughts?

I realized i never have given a picture of the old harness so here it is. And i bought this wire gauge on amazon to help determine exact wire size that i need to buy. It was $8 and free shipping with prime.

Right. But the original colors are the ones that will be described in wiring diagrams & troubleshooting procedures. So it's VERY beneficial to keep the correct color for each circuit. You can have both for nearly nothing if you buy JY harnesses from newer Ford products with your truck's engine (like '92-95 F-series/Broncos). What I meant was: don't necessarily try to get the original-shape connectors. Get newer connectors with the same number of pins, that are sized for circuits that pass roughly the same amount of current. Modern pins will be smaller, and modern plastic will be more-durable. That's like saying "...the sun coming up tomorrow, if that were to happen..." I have thought about getting new more modern connectors and there will be a couple which that will happen with, ie where the engine harness connects to the vehicle harness. There are simply to many connectors that are molded into the sensors to try to update them all. I also like the idea of maybe grabbing a harness off a newer truck if i can just repin it back to eec-iv. As i mentioned before i don't plan on keeping this engine in my truck for too much longer. This could be an unpopular thing amongst die hard ford fans but i do have plans to put a 5.9l cummins under the hood:nabble_anim_blbl:. Ive seen a few examples of it done already. So short story long, i don't feel the need or motivation to change to a new maf system. Also what i meant by not having to troubleshoot was with the harness itself. I shouldv'e been a little more specific. I think i have had to troubleshoot wiring in my vehicles maybe once or twice. And that has been with my f150(why im rebuilding the harness). Maybe i have just been lucky with my other vehicles. Once again i really appreciate the feedback and the concern. Today i'm going to do a little research on newer harnesses and possibly getting the correct wire colors.

Thanks for the prompt response. I just saw your email. I really appreciate your help! Right at the moment i will have to wait until tomorrow to tell you the comprehensive list. The harness is at work and so are my lists. I do know i need an idle air control motor connector, knock sensor connector, and charge air temp connector. I could probably just buy the dorman pins for those last 2 connectors though. They are still in decent shape.

Sorry for multiple posts, i am terrible at remembering what everyone's comments are lol. Our area (dubuque,ia) is a baron land for older vehicle junkyards. We kind of have a you pull it, but they do not have any 80s fords in their yards so that is a bit of a bummer here.

I am definitely trying to get new connectors for every sensor/ electrical device on the truck. I will definitely take another look at getting the right colored wire for each circuit, however i am not going for complete oem restore on this harness and i want to do it affordably. I need approximately 300 feet of wire. Ancor wire is around 22 bucks for a 100 feet, so thats why i was just going to use a couple colors. I want to get good wire and not necessarily all of the o.e. colors. I already know that alot of the cost is just in buying each pigtail and or bare connector if i can get it. Most of my original connectors are missing the retainer clips and are really grimey. It would be nice to get all new stuff. Anyway regardless of color wire i am going to label each circuit with a labeler so troubleshooting, if there were to be any shouldn't be too difficult.

If i can leave factory colors at the connectors i absolutely will. Thanks for the advice on the resistors. Another thing i might do is label each wire part way through with a labeler that can label shrink tube. I will definitely take all the advice i can get. Im pretty comfy with a solder iron and protecting electronics, just my experience is in a more industrial setting. The good thing is that my f150 is my toy and i can spend time finding what i need to do this right. I appreciate all your feedback. I will try to document my work and findings here. It is going to take me a while though. I am busy with my wife and 2 boys!

I appreciate the feedback. The reason i want to replace the resistor is because the insulation on the wires going into it and out of it are peeling off right up to the resistor. Other wise it is fine. It reads 21.7 k ohms actually. Im not sure how to track down the part number for each connector. It does not seem easy to do by any means. I did look through the catalog some. But like was mentioned its not that easy without part numbers. I will have to spend some pain staking time figuring that out. I do know my harness is going to have extra splicing since some pins and terminals are not easy to come by. It wont be that pretty but its going to function a whole heck of alot better and i will not have to worry about shorts happening. I do need an eec connector. Pin 20 melted into the connector.

I am trying to replace as many connectors as i can with original. I would love to update all the connectors to more modern stuff. I have access to a vast amount of different styles, however most of the sensors have the connector molded directly on them such as the knock sensor. For that reason im trying to keep that part original. The truck it self is far from original so its not much of an issue for me. I just simply have to rebuild the harness out of necessity. There is insulation peeling off wires all over the place. With that i am also replacing a few sensors that havent been yet. I found a harness on painless that us for if i remember right an 87 to 91 mustang for 600 bucks. Thats really expensive to me and i would have to change to maf. The goal is to not have this engine in here for ever either so i do not want to upgrade to that system. I just want this one to work for the next few years. I will give that website a look for determing wire size. Thanks again