F600 F700 dash compatability

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F600 F700 dash compatability

Littlebeefy
The complete dash of the F600 and F700 looks an awful lot like the ones in the Bullnose. Anybody know how similar they are? Would something like this work in a Bullnose dash:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184837115689?epid=1154497271&hash=item2b09268f29:g:y9AAAOSwPtxgnut3

Also, the trim strip that goes under and above the steering column looks very different on those trucks. Anyone know if it's a completely different column and location than ours?

Thanks
LittleBeefy aka Chad

“Dot Doitall”: 1984 Bronco XLT
460 (C8VE), Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4, ZF5, NP205, D44HP solid axle, 4.56
urban assault vehicle

"Bebe": 2022 Bronco Badlands 2dr
2.7l, Sasquatch, Iconic Silver, Black Marine-grade interior, hard-top

"Celeste": 1979 Porsche 928
4.5l K-jet, 5-sp, S4/GTS brakes, LSD, Pasha interior
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Re: F600 F700 dash compatability

Ford F834
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The column sits lower and is offset from ours. Unfortunately the dash bezels will not work for our trucks.
SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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Re: F600 F700 dash compatability

Gary Lewis
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The bezels fit our trucks.  I used an F600 radio bezel on Big Blue since they have an "eyebrow" above the radio for switches.

But I think there's something about the piece that goes below the column that causes problems using it.  I think Shaun knows so I'll tag him.


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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: F600 F700 dash compatability

Gary Lewis
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Jonathan!  Hello!

So the instrument bezel won't work but the radio bezel will?
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: F600 F700 dash compatability

Littlebeefy
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So it seems like the entire dash console is interchangeable between the two trucks with the exception of the instrument cluster bezel and the trim below the steering column because the column is in a slightly different place. Is that really all that is different? I have a huge truck graveyard down here and would love to pick the dump truck cascaras for a black or grey dash to refinish if that's the case.
LittleBeefy aka Chad

“Dot Doitall”: 1984 Bronco XLT
460 (C8VE), Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4, ZF5, NP205, D44HP solid axle, 4.56
urban assault vehicle

"Bebe": 2022 Bronco Badlands 2dr
2.7l, Sasquatch, Iconic Silver, Black Marine-grade interior, hard-top

"Celeste": 1979 Porsche 928
4.5l K-jet, 5-sp, S4/GTS brakes, LSD, Pasha interior
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1986F150Six
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Good hearing from you, Jonathan!
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Re: F600 F700 dash compatability

Gary Lewis
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I don't know.  I really though the whole thing swapped, but apparently not.  Maybe you could buy one and find out?
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: F600 F700 dash compatability

salans7
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Gary Lewis wrote
But I think there's something about the piece that goes below the column that causes problems using it.  I think Shaun knows so I'll tag him.
I may have known at one time, but I'm drawing a blank.

I do know that the columns and bottom trim are different, but that's about it.

I can say that the instrument clusters will bolt up to our dash because my instrument cluster base has a part number that decodes to the medium duty trucks.
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Re: F600 F700 dash compatability

Gary Lewis
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Thanks, Shaun.  I thought the dashes themselves are the same and the difference was the column mount and the bottom trim piece.  I know the dash covers and the radio bezels fit, and as you said the instrument clusters bolt in.  So I'm at a loss as to why the instrument bezel doesn't.

I'm going to tag Jonathan to see if he can come back and help us understand.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: F600 F700 dash compatability

salans7
I think I can see the issue now. It looks like the instrument cluster bezel would hit our steering columns before it could ever seat into the opening. The top of the opening on the medium duty bezels doesn't go as high as the openings on the light duty bezels. So basically, the opening is too different and doesn't angle in a way that allows it to work.
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Re: F600 F700 dash compatability

Ford F834
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Gary, you are correct. I was referring to the instrument bezel since that was what was linked.

Let me clarify what I know… the main hard plastic dash shell has no differences that I know of, but I think the lower metal supports for it above the transmission tunnel may be a little different if I’m remembering right.

The radio bezel fits and is interchangeable between the medium duty’s and the pickups.

The instrument bezel physically fits the hole in the dash shell of either truck, but the steering columns are in different places and therefore one won’t fit the other. The medium duty column is lower and shifted about an inch and a half to the left compared to the pickup column. The trim below the medium duty column can be adapted to a pickup, but won’t be centered.


Medium duty^^^


Pickup^^^






Trent’s medium duty adaptation^^^

Greetings David!



SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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Re: F600 F700 dash compatability

Gary Lewis
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Shaun - Thanks.

Jonathan - Those pics answer the question.  Thanks a bunch!  I can see a lot of difference where the column goes.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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1986F150Six
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Ford F834 wrote
Greetings David! 
Thanks, Jonathan!