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James191145

302 / 351 Motor Mount Perches

Images of 302/351 Motor mount Perches. Pictures taken from 1985 F-150 2wd 302ci

"Brother Charles" 1984 F-250 6.9IDI 4x4 BWT19
"Lacy" 1984 F-250 6.9IDI 4x4 ZF5
"Tommy" 1985 F-250 4x4 300ci ZF5

Gary Lewis

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James - Those are nice. Thanks. Would it be ok if I put them on our page at Documentation/Exterior/Frames/Engine Perches? It looks like we are lacking the Windsor perch pics.

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

salans7

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Looks like you're missing the 460 ones Gary, do you have a photo to add from Big Blue, or should I snap one from my truck since I have the engine out?

Gary Lewis

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Shaun - Any ones I have for Big Blue would be for other purposes, like showing the hole

cut in the crossmember or the patch Welder Scott put in. So if you could snap some that would be a big help. Thanks!

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James191145

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I posted them so you could add them. I am thrilled about this sight and it's resources and will contribute whenever I can.

Don't forget to add 37073 to the map! Wouldn't mind networking with some locals, we may be able to help each other!

"Brother Charles" 1984 F-250 6.9IDI 4x4 BWT19
"Lacy" 1984 F-250 6.9IDI 4x4 ZF5
"Tommy" 1985 F-250 4x4 300ci ZF5

Gary Lewis

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Thanks! And you are now on the map - but check to see that it is where it should be. However, we don't really want it to be too precise for fear of having unwanted visitors.

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salans7

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Gary Lewis wrote

Shaun - Any ones I have for Big Blue would be for other purposes, like showing the hole cut in the crossmember or the patch Welder Scott put in. So if you could snap some that would be a big help. Thanks!

I will get some quality ones tomorrow and send them your way.

salans7

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460 Perches:

Gary Lewis

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Thanks! I'll see if I can update that page tomorrow.

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salans7

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Hopefully the pictures don't confuse anybody. Small block 4x2 engine crossmember with 460 perches, and leaf sprung axle.

ArdWrknTrk

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What do you intend to do about the 460 oil filter/adapter, Shaun?

Dent the cross member or run a low profile remote filter adapter?

I think Gary has some fairly decent pictures of my truck's cross member from 03/08 when I pressure washed the frame before dropping in the re-man engine.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

ArdWrknTrk

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Interesting to see the two cross members are by side.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

Gary Lewis

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Ok guys, I've added the pics to the page at Documentation/Exterior/Frames/Engine Perches. Please take a look and see if changes need to be made.

Shaun - I'm tagging you for two reasons. First, I am assuming that you are going to be running a remote oil filter. Right? Second, because I didn't use all of your pics since I thought the one that matches Jim's told the story. But do we need the others?

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salans7

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I think what's been posted is perfectly fine. I prefer Jim's photo since it actually depicts the correct crossmember, but mine can stay because only the sticklers would notice, and it helps show that the 460 perches will bolt right up to a small block crossmember.

Jim/Gary, I still have the Florida Man frame with a 460 crossmember. I've thought about switching them out, but that's ALOT of work and a remote oil filter is much easier.

Gary Lewis

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I think it is good to have your pic on there as it does show the difference in crossmembers as well as the perches bolting up.

And I agree that a remote oil filler is easier. But I'll also say that w/a 460 there aren't lots of places to put the oil filter.

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salans7

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Gary Lewis wrote

I think it is good to have your pic on there as it does show the difference in crossmembers as well as the perches bolting up.

And I agree that a remote oil filler is easier. But I'll also say that w/a 460 there aren't lots of places to put the oil filter.

That's the part that worries me.

Now is the time to make the decision, especially since Sky has now started offering the 4x2 frame box kit for the 80-91 trucks with the RSK kit. I inquired about purchasing the frame box brackets alone, and it seems like they're willing so I'll probably end up pulling my RSK back apart for those, so it would be the perfect time to swap the crossmembers.

Gary Lewis

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How 'bout swapping the frames? I looked at swapping the crossmembers and it was going to be a LOT of work.

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salans7

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Gary Lewis wrote

How 'bout swapping the frames? I looked at swapping the crossmembers and it was going to be a LOT of work.

I've already done that twice now. I'd rather not since I landed on another rust-free frame. The last one was too, but the current frame is numbers matching to my cab. And that's also why I don't want to switch it.

I'm pretty against swapping the crossmembers because I'd essentially have to spread the frame to replace them, and I would rather not do anything that would risk it's integrity.

Notching may be an option, but it's challenging due to how large the opening is for small block oil filters.

Even if I wanted to attempt to graft the two crossmembers together, that's a ton of welding and definitely past my comfort level. Again, don't want to risk the integrity.

ArdWrknTrk

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I think you're making the wise decision Shaun. 💡

Since I don't expect your truck will be nearly as crowded under hood as Big Blue, there should be ample space for a filter.
Who's relocation kit would you use? Would you try to keep the stock filter? (I can't seem to find them at Walmart anymore)

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

Gary Lewis

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I agree. With all you've said I think the best route is the remote filter.

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