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Gary Lewis
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I had a visitor to the shop on Monday - Prashant.  He's driving his '86 F150 w/a 460/ZF5 from Atlanta to Colorado, and stopped by to see me.  But when we went out into the shop he spied something that he didn't think belongs.  Can any of you ID it?  



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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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85lebaront2
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It looks suspiciously like a valve cover for a turbocharged Chrysler engine.
Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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Gary Lewis
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I thought you'd enjoy seeing a pic of Prashant holding it.  He'd just told me you've been helping him, but I think he referred to you as "the guy in Virginia.  The one with a 460 with EFI like you are going to do."  I said "Oh, you mean Bill Vose?  That's his valve cover."
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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grumpin
That's funny! Small world sometimes!
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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1986F150Six
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Gary Lewis wrote
I had a visitor to the shop on Monday - Prashant.  
Just like stray cats, your friends keep coming back!!!

P.S. Prashant, that is not directed at you as there are a number of us who make an annual trek to Skiatook, OK.

P.P.S. How was your truck's gas mileage, Prashant?
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Gary Lewis
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I doubt Prashant is going to see these posts.  He doesn't seem to get on the forum nor know what's on the website.  He had a friend with him, Greg, and they were asking some questions that are answered by pages on the site.  So I showed them, and Greg was quick to say "That's it!".  I got the feeling that Greg will bring Prashant back to the site when they get to CO, but maybe not the forum.

As for MPG, I'm not sure that it will be all that good.  They said that they'd hit 98 MPH and the truck just didn't want to go any faster.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Steve83
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Gary Lewis wrote
They said that they'd hit 98 MPH and the truck just didn't want to go any faster.
That's depressing.  I have a few 3-digit driving awards for my 3-ton Bricko with a 6-banger.
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1986F150Six
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Gary Lewis wrote
 As for MPG, I'm not sure that it will be all that good.  They said that they'd hit 98 MPH and the truck just didn't want to go any faster.  
Hmmm... maybe I don't really want to know?
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85lebaront2
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I have no idea how fast Darth will go, both my late wife and son have had him with the original 85 mph speedometer pegged, Interestingly I have gotten some of my best mileage cruising at 70 mph (1900 rpm) or 75 (2050 rpm). The E4OD really helps with that.
Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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Gary Lewis
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I suspect a lot of tuning needs to be done with the 460.  It has a Holley on it and I don't think there's been any jetting work done.

But you can be sure the MPG is well south of 10, and maybe closer to 5.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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grumpin
After some more driving, I've been getting 11.5 to 12.0 MPG with the new Holley. Driving 60-65 MPH.

That's horrible to some, but better than before when I couldn't get over 9.0 MPG!

I'm happy!

Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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1986F150Six
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Horrible? 27.8 - 33.3% improvement!
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Gary Lewis
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That range of 11.5 to 12 is about what Big Blue gets, but he's got a T19.  So you are doing quite well getting that with a C6.  And, that is a good improvement.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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85lebaront2
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Darth went from a solid 10 with the Holley 4180 and C6 to 11-12.5 with a very low compression EFI engine and E4OD. Once I get the new 9.3:1 compression 466 in I will see what it gets.
Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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grumpin
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1986F150Six wrote
Horrible? 27.8 - 33.3% improvement!
That makes it sound better!

65 MPH might be a stretch, 65 seems to be the speed that separates the MPG. IIRC I ran 70 and a little over and was down to 9 or less. I try to set the cruise at 63 or 64, sheez, splitting hairs and thinking too much!
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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1986F150Six
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grumpin wrote
1986F150Six wrote
Horrible? 27.8 - 33.3% improvement!
That makes it sound better!

65 MPH might be a stretch, 65 seems to be the speed that separates the MPG. IIRC I ran 70 and a little over and was down to 9 or less. I try to set the cruise at 63 or 64, sheez, splitting hairs and thinking too much!
There is a former Ford Engine Development Engineer, The Frenchtown Flyer, who has stated that the "magic" limiting point with our trucks is 62 mph. After which, the gas mileage goes downhill, fast!
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grumpin
1986F150Six wrote
grumpin wrote
1986F150Six wrote
Horrible? 27.8 - 33.3% improvement!
That makes it sound better!

65 MPH might be a stretch, 65 seems to be the speed that separates the MPG. IIRC I ran 70 and a little over and was down to 9 or less. I try to set the cruise at 63 or 64, sheez, splitting hairs and thinking too much!
There is a former Ford Engine Development Engineer, The Frenchtown Flyer, who has stated that the "magic" limiting point with our trucks is 62 mph. After which, the gas mileage goes downhill, fast!
That's good to know! I should stay at 60 and not get in a hurry...yeah right!
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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1986F150Six
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This post was updated on .
2014 55-62 mph with no aerodynamic modifications = 21.93 mpg [highest tank = 23.26 mpg]

 2015 55-62 mph with aerodynamic modifications = 24.13 mpg [highest tank = 25.72 mpg]

 2016 55-70 mph [weighted towards 65-70] with aerodynamic modifications = 22.05 mpg [highest tank = 23.46 mpg]

 2017 Missing data due to having driven another vehicle.

 2018 65-75 mph [closer to 75] with no aerodynamic modifications] = 19.87 mpg [highest tank = 21.3 mpg]


If you look at the data [above], and compare 2014 against 2018, you will see what a little speed does with regard to gas mileage. This is my truck being driven to and from Skiatook, OK.
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grumpin
1986F150Six wrote
2014 55-62 mph with no aerodynamic modifications = 21.93 mpg [highest tank = 23.26 mpg]

 2015 55-62 mph with aerodynamic modifications = 24.13 mpg [highest tank = 25.72 mpg]

 2016 55-70 mph [weighted towards 65-70] with aerodynamic modifications = 22.05 mpg [highest tank = 23.46 mpg]

 2017 Missing data due to having driven another vehicle.

 2018 65-75 mph [closer to 75] with no aerodynamic modifications] = 19.87 mpg [highest tank = 21.3 mpg]


If you look at the data [above], and compare 2014 against 2018, you will see what a little speed does with regard to gas mileage. This is my truck being driven to and from Skiatook, OK.
Indeed! I remember reading about your aero. mods..
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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85lebaront2
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Your visitor gets around, he called me today, he blew a water pump on the 460 halfway between Petersburg and South Hill VA on I-85. He wanted to know if I had a good source, he had already been through Advance, AutoZone and O'Reilly.

He found one at NAPA, and was getting the truck towed back to Petersburg then had a bolt that wouldn't come out and manged to break the timing cover. He has a plan to get it roadworthy again.
Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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