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Steering column disassembly

kramttocs
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Anyone have a guide on the full disassembly of a tilt auto column?

Really just wanting to get the bottom gasket (firewall attachment) off but it can't be removed with the shift arm at the bottom still there. Have the top down to the tilt/shift collar - so the tumbler collar and turn cam is all removed.

Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

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Ray Cecil
Im subbing to this thread.

Ive not taken one apart yet, but I do have one in the 87 bronco....if you need parts I may be parting it out soon.
1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed


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kramttocs
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Thanks Ray. Mine is fully functional, just wanting to get it painted/coated :)

I figure the tilt mechanism will need removed and the outer shift sleeve released to slide out the bottom but a little daunting to tear into the tilt part without knowing the right order.
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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Gary Lewis
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Would the section from the factory shop manual help?  I can put it on the site this evening if so.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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kramttocs
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Thanks Gary. I am actually perusing it now. If I tackle it tonight. I'll take photos and add it to this thread.
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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Re: Steering column disassembly

Rembrant
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kramttocs wrote
Anyone have a guide on the full disassembly of a tilt auto column?

Really just wanting to get the bottom gasket (firewall attachment) off but it can't be removed with the shift arm at the bottom still there. Have the top down to the tilt/shift collar - so the tumbler collar and turn cam is all removed.
I should have pics of this. I disassembled my 3-on-the-tree column down to every last piece, and removed that firewall part with the rubber seal to sand blast and paint it. I also had to weld new tabs on where it connects to the steel column in the cab.

As far as I know, the three on the tree column and the auto column would be almost identical at the bottom end where the lever(s) are.

Let me dig out some pics...hang on
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Rembrant
Ok, so I'm not much help. I went looking for pics and I don't have any that are of any use in this discussion, sorry. I did pull the part though and blasted it and repaired it, etc.



If I recall correctly....and this was on a NON-tilt column mind you...but I had to remove the shift collar on the inside, and the bushing and spring washer under it, and then from the bottom end remove the black plastic housing, and the whole shift tube will slide right out.





1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Gary Lewis
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Scott - The instructions are already on the site: Documentation/Interior/Steering Columns and on the Instructions tab.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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kramttocs
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Thanks guys!
Looked that page up on my phone earlier but didn't scroll over far enough.
Will read over it and my hardcopy again after my son's soccer game.
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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kramttocs
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Did you peel the rubber seal from the bottom firewall plate? I played around with one of the spares in my shop and it looked like it would tear but I didn't use any heat.
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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Gary Lewis
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If you only knew someone who cuts gaskets.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Rembrant
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kramttocs wrote
Did you peel the rubber seal from the bottom firewall plate? I played around with one of the spares in my shop and it looked like it would tear but I didn't use any heat.
Yes, peeled it completely off. If I recall correctly, mine was already at least 50% loose, and I just peeled off the last of it, but it did come off complete. I scraped all of the old paint and crap off the back of it, and when I had the plate all painted again, I put the rubber back on. I can't remember exactly how I adhered it back to the plate...maybe with some 3M spray adhesive, but I do remember using some black RTV around the center part. Clamp it together with some clothespins or something similar and let it sit.

I have some finished pics, but no pics in progress unfortunately other than when it was sand blasted.

1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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kramttocs
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Haha it crossed my mind. This one would be a little more involved since it's formed - think the demand would be there?
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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Gary Lewis
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kramttocs wrote
Haha it crossed my mind. This one would be a little more involved since it's formed - think the demand would be there?
I'd buy two.  Right now.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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kramttocs
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This post was updated on .
So that didn't turn out near as bad as I thought.

Three Allen screws up from the bottom of the shift column removed the tilt assembly and shaft from the sleeve.
Then drilling out the rivet separated the shift collar, shift sleeve, and main tube.

To remove the firewall plate gasket it took a lot of slow peeling and a razor blade to avoid tearing it.

Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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Gary Lewis
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Did you get a pic of the rivet?  And what are you going back with to replace it?
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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kramttocs
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Scott
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'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

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kramttocs
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My current plan is to replace it with a button head bolt and nylock nut. I don't believe the nylock nut will be too tall but if so, then blue loctite and a regular nut
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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Gary Lewis
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Thanks.  Now I know which one.  Let us know what works, please.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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kramttocs
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Anyone know the purpose of these white plastic things on the shift shaft?
First thought was as a slide against the outer sleeve but the inner shaft should be suspended away from it. Second was that they kept the two piece shaft together but seems like an odd material for that .



Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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