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Starting problems

Hound Dog Lew
This is regarding my 1985 E350 460.
When I turn the key, sometimes the engine will turn over. Other times I just get a click. Out of 10 tries, it may turn the starter. Some times sooner, sometimes later.
Should I look at soleniod? Wiring to starter? Starter?
Thanks
1983 F150 Flareside 302 AOD 3.55
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Re: Starting problems

PetesPonies
If you manually jump the two large terminals on the solenoid, you will know if there is a problem with it or it's circuit. Use two large screwdrivers and understand that if you don't make a good contact with the screwdrivers, sparks may fly. Just warning you. I have done this hundreds of times, but want you to be prepared if you have never done this..
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1983 Bronco

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Gary Lewis
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I agree, but would use a battery jumper cable rather than screwdrivers.  Just use one side, like the red/hot pair of clips.  And, please make sure the truck is in Park if an automatic or in Neutral if a manual transmission, and with the park brake set.  Further, stand to the side when you do it, just in case.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Hound Dog Lew
Thank you both!
1983 F150 Flareside 302 AOD 3.55
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PetesPonies
IMO, more chance of a problem with battery cables. They come off too easily. The two large screwdrivers ,you can control precisely.
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Re: Starting problems

JimsRebel
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If needed, I would recommend a upgrade to a PMGR starter. This also fixes the problem with poor quality, high failure rates of the stock fender mount starter solenoid.  


https://bzerob2.wordpress.com/2012/11/04/ford-upgrade-to-a-pmgr-starter/

Jim
1986 F150 XLT Lariat 4x4 300 C6, 9 inch 3:50, 235-15 tires, sway bars and skid plates, DS2 dist with GM 4 pin IGN module and no computer. still using the feedback carb; 3G ALT swap, PMGR starter; 150,000 miles, 2nd owner
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Gary Lewis
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Or, you can just use the info right here in our backyard: Electrical/PMGR Starter Wiring.   😉
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: Starting problems

PetesPonies
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Jim, solenoid problems have only been  when the foreign crap became available everywhere. OEM quality has never been a problem with these solenoids. Buy actual Ford, Standard or Bluestreak.
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85lebaront2
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All I can say is "buyer beware", you better take a good look at the box, even NAPA, who used to have good quality now sells Chinese relays for Fords. I would rather take a chance on a decent junkyard Ford part than a new Chinese one.
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ArdWrknTrk
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This used to be true, but not any more. (AMHIK)
After burning through more than 6 relays; Motorcraft, Carquest, NAPA, Ametek, Standard, BWD, Cole Hersee,

I'm running a cheap Chinese PMGR starter from DB Electrical and couldn't be happier.
The Advance store brand relay has no problem with the starter's 40A pull in or 13A to hold.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Re: Starting problems

Hound Dog Lew
'Twas the solenoid.
1983 F150 Flareside 302 AOD 3.55
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Gary Lewis
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Cool!  So, I guess it has been replaced.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: Starting problems

Hound Dog Lew
Yes sir. AC Delco. Fires right up!
1983 F150 Flareside 302 AOD 3.55
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PetesPonies
THat was easy and cheap. Congrats
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Gary Lewis
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Hound Dog Lew wrote
Yes sir. AC Delco. Fires right up!
👍
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI