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salans7

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Hopefully the guy has a good reason for the delay and isn't giving you the run around. But I'm a realist and I see things for how they are. Let us know if we can help in any way.

Gary Lewis

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Got a text today saying the parts for the axle are on their way.

And, a funny story: Told Janey today that since tomorrow looks to be nice I think I'll open the shop door, roll Big Blue back a few feet to give me more room to maneuver the shop crane, and install the engine. Then I got the text saying the parts will soon be in and I realized that there's no front axle under the truck, so rolling it back might be difficult.

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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

salans7

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Did the guy give you a reason for the delay?

Gary Lewis

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The reason they gave him was that they were out of stock on the Ox locker.

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salans7

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Would have been nice if he relayed that to you a few weeks ago, but I guess that's water under the bridge.

1986F150Six

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Gary Lewis wrote

The reason they gave him was that they were out of stock on the Ox locker.

Gary, you might appreciate the humor in this:

Proverbs 14:4 Where there are no oxen, the manger is empty, but from the strength of an ox come abundant harvests

Gary Lewis

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Good one, David! I hope Luke 14:5 never comes into play.

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1986F150Six

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This post was updated on .

I think Big Blue will be able to pull itself out of a pit [or well], any day.

VWThomason

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Is this still on the back burner or have I somehow missed another post on the finished product?

The Polar Bear - 1986 F350 Crew Cab Long Bed Dually. Starting life as a 2wd 6.9 C6 truck. Now has Cummins P-pump that is slightly turned up. Running ZF-5 transmission with BW4407 transfer case. Converting to 4wd with some help from a SKY RSK kit with SD springs on top of a 1996 Dana 60. Also using the SKY kit to convert the rear to 2008 springs. More to come.

Clifford - 1993 F250 7.3 IDI ATS 088 turbo with a ZF-5 behind it and 4.10 gears. Lifted along with solid axle D60 swap. Running Baja military 37s

Gary Lewis

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The D60 is in. But the engine, transmission, et al to be able to test it aren't, although we are getting close.

Do you have specific questions?

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VWThomason

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No specific questions. Just looking for it to be on all fours again. Last I saw you were still having issues with the locker etc.

Gary Lewis

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It is on all fours.

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VWThomason

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That's good to hear. My knee is almost strong enough for me to get back out in the shop and get mine done too. So much to do before summer. At least it's starting to warm up too.

salans7

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VWThomason wrote

That's good to hear. My knee is almost strong enough for me to get back out in the shop and get mine done too. So much to do before summer. At least it's starting to warm up too.

I finished the RSK on my truck (4x2) as well, although I need to go back and finalize the inner frame boxes. We're ready to see your truck on all four wheels as well!

VWThomason

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Did you use the sky rsk as well? What amount of lift and spring combo did you choose? I'm really hoping mine doesnt sit that high with the lowest and U code springs.

salans7

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VWThomason wrote

Did you use the sky rsk as well? What amount of lift and spring combo did you choose? I'm really hoping mine doesnt sit that high with the lowest and U code springs.

Yes, it's the SKY 80-91 SD kit. I'm running the Lo-Pro shackles, so the RSK gave me 2" of lift, and then I'm running what are listed as 2" lift springs from ProComp, but I feel they're closer to three. However the truck has no drivetrain as of right now, so it will probably settle down once all that is installed. If you're running U-code springs, you'll be closer to where Gary's truck will sit.

VWThomason

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Well that's a sigh of relief. I've already got one big truck and even though I like it, I was planning on this one to be more family friendly, but still have a good stance on 35s. Just need to get out on the shop and do it!

Gary Lewis

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Right now with the U-codes and just the engine and tranny the front sits 2" higher than the rear. I'm hoping the t-case, front driveshaft, two large batteries, radiator & coolant, winch bumper and winch, etc level the truck out.

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VWThomason

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My engine is just slightly heavier than yours and I'll have turbo and intercooler additionally so we'll see. I'm also doing the 08 rear springs too, so it should all be juuuussssst right for how I want it to sit, hopefully with no block in the rear.

Meehawl

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Gary Lewis wrote

Ok, end-of-day report: four of the six rivets are out of the driver's side rear spring hanger bracket. And, I've found a new procedure:

<ol>
<li>Use a grinder to make a small flat on top of the rivet so you can start the drill bit centered up.</li>
<li>Drill the rivet with a 3/16" bit - chosen because it is big enough not to break easily and small enough that it bites pretty well. The hole should not go all the way through, but it does need to go past the 2nd layer so it releases pressure on the sides.</li>
<li>Drill the hole out to 3/8" the depth of the first hole.</li>
<li>Knock the head off the rivet on the side you started drilling from, using the air chisel. It'll go much faster on a hollow rivet than a solid one. </li>
<li>Knock the rest of the rivet out with a punch and sledge</li>
</ol>

With that new approach I got those four rivets out in 45 minutes where yesterday it took easily four hours to do six of them. And part of the 45 minutes was developing the technique. For instance, I learned that drilling all the way through doesn't leave you a solid surface against which to place the punch. But, not drilling past the second layer will have you hammering for a long time - and then start drilling again. Don't ask.

Oh, and Erik sent me a note saying the 1 1/2" difference between the stock bracket and the lo-pro is correct.

<quote author="Gary Lewis">

While working in one of the most miserable heavy vehicle workshops in the first world, in Queensland Australia, my only good memory was managing to change the way they de-riveted truck chassis’ when making large scale alterations. They would employ a large wedge shaped cold chisel, ensconced in a purpose built long handle made of 10mm/3/8" mild steel round bar wound around it. One unfortunate soul would align it on the rivet, while the more unfortunate fellow would swing Oceania’s largest sledge hammer at it with uninhibited violence. It was insanely loud and extraordinarily laborious. When they roped me in to have my turn at doing a God of Thunder impersonation on the end of the big persuader, I made my thoughts known regarding the exploitation of modern tool technology and was given the response…. “This is how it’s done mate, just get on with it" ……So, during the second chassis, on the second day, the rest of the workshop had had enough of the Dollar-Tree version of Thor and his high decibel art and were coming around to my idea. My idea being, huge Hilti demo hammer, with a 40mm/1,1/2" spade bit, with one guy holding the shaft of the spade bit to direct it on to the rivet, while wearing thick welding gloves, with the other guy holding up & directing the technology rich end of the operation. The removal of rivets is done with an instant violence that stretches the rivet enough while ripping the head off, that its diameter reduces and punching it out is a gentle stroll in comparison to what it was before. An entire chassis done in around 30-35mins, with no noticeable impact damage anywhere, as opposed to a shift and a quarter, with unintentional impact based graffiti randomly appearing before. They didn’t even need to buy the Hilti as you need only rent one when a chassis rework was undertaken. Less noise, less hassle and the undeniable proof that judicious & uncompromising violence is occasionally the perfect answer.

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