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Got some big/good news! With Chris/ckuske's help I think we've found a way to get our pdf's crawled by Google.
 This is REALLY a big deal, assuming it works as expected, as people can find the content of the pdf's just via a Google search. Imagine being able to find a TSB or the info on carb or transmission rebuilds! The issue, as Chris pointed out, was that we had the pdf's hosted on another site, like Microsoft's OneDrive or Google Drive. And all that connected our site to the pdf's was a link. But Chris suggested that we host the files on the Weebly server as part of the website. That took some figuring out as I'd not done that before, but I now have three files on there: Documents/Driveline/Transmissions/Automatic Transmissions/C6: The section from the 1985 FSM is shown on the tab entitled Rebuild Procedures.Documentation/Fuel Systems/Carburetors, Chokes, & EFI/Carter YFA 1BBL: The file on the Instructions tab and then the Walker tab is new.Documentation/Interior/Interior Trim: The illustration on the Regular Cab tab is done the new way, and the one on the Bronco tab is done the old way. Which way appears to be more clear to you?I've asked Google to crawl and index all three of those pages, which is the process by which they catalog everything on a page so they can return the results in a search. In a few days we'll see if the contents of any of those pages is now found and, if so, we have a winner! But, the guru at Weebly that helped me figure out their addressing scheme is sure it'll work. If so it is a major step in the direction of helping people find all the info we have available. 
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
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And, we have partial success!
The Freefind search widget that we have in the upper left corner of the forum pages now finds the phrase "On 6.9L diesel engine trucks equipped with a C-6 automatic transmission a Vacuum Regulator Valve", which is on the C6 page that has been re-homed to Weebly from OneDrive. But it doesn't find "The dual master cylinder contains a double hydraulic cylinder with two fluid", which is in the General Hydraulic Brake Service PDF that is still homed on OneDrive. I'll move it to Weebly today and search again tomorrow to prove this works - at least as far as Freefind is concerned. Freefind crawls and indexes the site nightly, as opposed to Google which can take up to two weeks to get done even after you ask it nicely to re-crawl a page, which I did yesterday with the three listed above. You might ask why I'm reporting this, and the reason is two-fold. First, to keep track of what works and doesn't work. Second, because Chris/ckuske is due back tomorrow and will want to catch up on how/if his suggestion works - which it appears to do.
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Well, swell. I did add the General Brake Service file to Weebly and embedded it on the Brakes page. And then I told Freefind to index the site. It is now done and Freefind does find the phrase listed above.
HOWEVER, it actually finds the file itself tucked away in the directory here: www.garysgaragemahal.com/files/theme/GeneralBrakeService.pdf. But it was supposed to find it on the page at Documentation/Driveline/Brakes, which it hasn't done. Given that, I went back to the search on the C6 and now I realize it is doing the same - finding the file in the directory (www.garysgaragemahal.com/files/theme/FordC6RebuildProcedures.pdf) rather than on the page. Close, but no cigar.  The issue is that while the user can find the document, s/he doesn't really know where they are and has no way of getting truly into the website. They are just viewing a seemingly random document found on the interweb. Yes, it says it is on garysgaragemahal, but that only shows in the URL, not on the page. I'm afraid the same thing will be true of Google. In fact, the best case is that they just find it on the page and not as a separate file. If that's the case then I think there's a way to tell them to ignore the file itself. But the worst case is that they find just the file and not the page, which is what Freefind has done. One question becomes if the problem of finding the page has to do with the fact that I have the file embedded on a tab, as I do in many if not most of the cases. Some of my reading suggests that Google won't find it. So, more testing is due..... 
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Ok, I'm officially bummed. In an effort to see if the issue is with tabs, aka "hidden content" in the Search Engine Optimization vernacular, I put the C6 document on my test page, not in a tab, and reran the Freefind indexing. And it does find bits and pieces from that document - but not on either the test page nor the C6 page, but the document itself in the Weebly directory.
And Google still hasn't found any of it, but that doesn't surprise me as I've seen that take upwards of two weeks, although three days is more normal. So the jury is still out on this. 
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And now Google is finding " CHOKE COVER CLAMP SCREW (3)", which is in the Walker document on the Carter 1bbl page, in the file itself at http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/files/theme/CarterYFandYFA.pdf and not on the Carter 1bbl page.
Perhaps it'll find it on the page later? 
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Chris - Welcome back.
 I've done a LOT of reading, and I cannot find anyone who is having this problem. And since Wordpress is said to have 32% of the web hosting market, someone would be reporting on it if it truly was a problem. My hope is that the media management part of Wordpress, and specifically the Yoast SEO plugin that is said to be a must, shields the file itself from the search engines but shows the page on which it is shown. Saying it another way, when building a page you can upload a file, like a pdf, to be shown on that page. Surely the system is smart enough to know you don't want that file to be found twice as you'll take a hit in rankings with duplication. So there must be a way for the instance on the page to be found and yet the place where it is stored not to be. I think we press on with the plan to migrate to Wordpress and hope for the best. At the very least it will be better than today since the files will be on the same host site. But hopefully it'll be what we need where the search engines find it on the page where we placed it to be viewed and not in the media directory. And, speaking of that I contacted cms2cms, who do migrations. They said it'll be $300 for them to do a full migration. That seems like a good way to go to me as there's no way I want to be fixing each of the 549 pages we have when the automated tool glitches. But I'll check with other outfits to find their costs and compare them. Plus I'll continue to scope out hosting sites to see what they provide and at what cost. Do you have a recommendation? I want to get all the bits and pieces figured out and then pull the trigger.
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More on Wordpress: I picked up the book WordPress All-In-One (for dummies) today. And since it cost $40 we are now committed.
 Seriously though, what little I've read really looks good. Here are some things I've learned: Roles: There are several roles that are available which we might want to use, like Author, Editor, and Administrator. That means that we may be able to give people a page or a section for which to be responsible.Comments: It is possible to turn on the ability for people to comment on pages. And while those comments aren't visible to everyone unless or until an administrator approves them, at least we can get feedback on the pages.Navigation: There are many, many plug-ins that provide lots of options in how to create navigation menus. So I'm hoping we can make the nav menu even more useful.Breadcrumbs: These are the links at the top and/or bottom of the page that show how you got where you are. The themes I've found on Weebly don't provide breadcrumbs, but we need them. In addition, I think there are some things we can do to provide menus for sections of the site, like maybe Electrical or Driveline, to make it easier to find your way around the section.So I'm going to be reading up on Wordpress, checking out hosting sites, and planning on how and when and to where we will migrate.
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Well, isn't it interesting that the "Chris's" are the ones with webhosting and Wordpress knowledge.
 ckuske - Thanks for the link to Dreamhost. The bottom tier at $16.95/mo provides ~100K monthly visitors, and if they are measuring the way others measure, meaning daily, then we are at 12.3K/month. So that would work nicely.  They also say they do "Free Professional Site Migration". I'm guessing that is from a different Wordpress site to theirs, but I'll contact them to see if they do it from Weebly. And even if there's a fee it might be worth it to have someone move it to their system. And thanks for the offer on trying the site. But I'm not sure how to go about doing that. We have to convert it from Weebly to Wordpress, which means pointing the conversion code or people at the 1.7Gb, and growing, backup. Then we'd have another big file to upload. Let me noodle on this for a bit longer and think through how we could do it, who we'd have to pay and how much, etc. I just want to have all our ducks in a row. But thanks again! ctubutis - I see what you are saying about bots finding pdf's, but somehow it seems to be done on other sites. I think. But I'll have to do some research to prove what I think I've found, which is pdf's can be found on a page that shows you that you are in someone's website and provides a nav menu to go elsewhere on the site. Now we have the bots finding the pdf's that are truly hosted on Weebly. (At least they've found one of them and I assume all three.) But they've only found them, or are only showing them, in the storage place rather than on the page. And when you click on the link that a Google search provides you get the document and nothing but the document. So, in the case of the file on the Carter YF And YFA (http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/files/theme/CarterYFandYFA.pdf) you are just "there". In the document itself with no way of getting anywhere else. But if you go to the page at Documentation/Fuel Systems/Carburetors, Chokes, & EFI/Carter 1BBl (http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/carter-yfa-1bbl.html) and go to the Instructions tab and then the Walker tab you'll see the exact same document but you know where you are and can navigate elsewhere. And yet, last I looked, Google hasn't found the specific string I'm looking for on the page but it has in the document in the "files" section.
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