New/Repro YF carburetor for the 300 six

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New/Repro YF carburetor for the 300 six

Ford F834
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I’ve owned 300 sixes, a 240 six and a 250 six in a Mercury comet. The bane of these engines has always been fighting crappy worn out 1bbl carburetors that are beyond the help of a rebuild kit. David recently sent me a link for new/reproduction YF carburetor units for sale on eBay. The price point on these is simultaneously attractive and cause for concern. I looked at reviews of ECCPP carburetors (mostly from motorcycle/dirt bike owners) and the results are mixed... but overall favorable enough that I pulled the trigger. I will update later with my user experience. They do advertise a 60 day money back guarantee and a 3 year service warranty. We shall see...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/293470379820

SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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ArdWrknTrk
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None of my small engines (Honda, Stihl, Husquvarna, Homelite) seem to know they have a knockoff carb.
Do heed the directions to flush the packing oil out of all the jets and passages.

It's hard NOT to take a chance when a new carb is less that a rebuild kit.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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86 1/2 Brutus
I've been seeing those around, been thinking about picing one up for a spare even though i've done the mods to mine, at that price you cant go wrong.
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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Rembrant
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Subscribed. I might stick the 300 back into my current project truck, and it needs a carb, so I'd really like to know how this one works Jon. Thanks.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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86 1/2 Brutus
I've messed around with several china knock off's.  believe it or not, they are pretty good for the money.  sort of a throw away carb.  i'm running a china 2150 on another vehicle and some lawnmower carbs, so far, great service.   I'm going to buy a yfa knock off for Brutus and put his stock one in a box in the truck for a spare  really for nothing but curiosity.
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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Gary Lewis
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For that price it is well worth a try.  Let us know, please.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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86 1/2 Brutus wrote
I've been seeing those around, been thinking about picing one up for a spare even though i've done the mods to mine, at that price you cant go wrong.
At that price I was thinking the same and stick it on the shelf but it would be my luck when I needed it in say 5 years, I got one that did not work out of the box
If I needed one now I would go for it.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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ArdWrknTrk
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What size 2150?

Tom in Vermont is looking for a 1.21 2100 or 2150.
What is your impression of that carb?
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Rusty_S85
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Nothing wrong with new carbs just be careful some times they have differences to make them fit numerous years.  I got one for my el camino that has relocated the fresh air line for the hot air choke to where it is sitting atop the EGR valve and wont let the carb sit down.  Had to bend it up quite a bit.  Another change is I have to swap the base plate cause the new one doesnt come with the arm on the throttle shaft for the AC stepper solenoid.

I do suggest you also flush and check the new carb, I sent my first one back cause the thing had idle mixture screws that could be screwed in fully and no change in the idle.  Ive also had remans do this also.
"Old Blue" - '56 Fairlane Town Sedan - 292-4V, Ford-O-Matic transmission, 3.22:1
'63 Belair 2dr sdn - 283-4V, Powerglide transmission, 4.56:1
'78 Cougar XR7 - 351-2V, FMX transmission, 2.75:1 9inch
"Bruno" - '82 F150 Flareside - 302-2V, C6 transmission, 2.75:1 9inch, 31x10.50-15 BFG KO2
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Ford F834
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Gentlemen, thank you for your comments and advice. What you all are saying matches the other comments I have read on the net. I will report back when I receive and install it.
SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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86 1/2 Brutus
This post was updated on .
it's the 3.14 one.  I looked around for a 1.21 but found one on ebay and rebuilt it.   The 1.14 is on a friends mustang now and still going strong, it replaced a chinese 2150 that he bought with 1.08 which was to small.   I'm not really sure if you can get the 21's or not, i havent seen them
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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Ford F834
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My carburetor arrived yesterday in the mail, and so far I’m impressed. It had shape-specific packaging foam so it wouldn’t knock about in the shipping box. The finish and workmanship seem excellent and everything seems to have tight smooth movement. Hopefully it will run in addition to looking nice... I am still completely baffled as to how anyone could manufacture this and deliver it to me for $63.35 after tax. Wow.



Mine did not come with any instructions to flush out packing oil, and it seems completely dry. I suppose I will shoot some carb cleaner through the jets and ports just in case. It’s a bit too late to swap it and run it for today’s water haul, but I will probably get it put on tomorrow morning.
SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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Rembrant
Can't wait to hear more about in Jonathan. I'll be ordering one myself if you give it the thumbs up.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Gary Lewis
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Yep, I'm anxious to see the results.  But I'm not sure I'd put carb cleaner in it.  Not 100% sure what that would do to a plastic float.  I think I'd put gas in.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Ford F834
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Thanks for the warning Gary. I was waiting to see what the manufacturers instructions were, but there were none in the box. Perhaps mine did not receive packing oil. I don’t see anything like that in any of the orifices. Maybe I should just run it? I don’t think I have any small tip squeeze bottles to force gasoline through the passages. I’m tempted to just toss it on and see what it does.
SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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Gary Lewis
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I don't think it will hurt anything to just try it.  If there's oil in there the gas will clean it out.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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ArdWrknTrk
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A quick shot of carb or brake cleaner through the jets and acc pump can't hurt or take time.

While I trust you don't see anything, I've seen enough and heard too many reports that 'they won't run'

I flush it out, and don't even have to set it and the engines me goes right off.


Suck it and see...
But if there's no joy, pull it back off and purge it.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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ArdWrknTrk
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Not necessarily....








AMHiK
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Ford F834
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I only have a few miles on the new carburetor, but my preliminary verdict is a solid thumbs up and three Andrew Jackson’s well spent...

I went ahead and shot a bit of carb cleaner in the ports, figuring it would be flushed with gasoline soon enough. I hooked it up and it ran after a few seconds of cranking, just like my old one did if it sat a day without being started.

The carb has a few minor differences. The low idle screw is on the passenger side, and the mixture screw is in a slightly different spot on the base plate. Access is worse, but you already have no grounds to complain about working room when you are wrenching on a 300. The choke lever is moved slightly and required a cable adjustment for my manual set up which I usually don’t have to do when switching carbs. Not a problem, just a minor difference from stock. The supplied choke mechanism is bi metal heat only. Not electric.

Idle and mixture screws came pre set a bit lean and a bit low idle. Overall driving performance feels good. It still has the slight carbureted stumble and stutter at idle, which might smooth out if I retard the timing some. I have it a bit much advanced as it has some kickback problems when starting. I will break out my light and dial it back a couple degrees tomorrow. It pulls strong under load and seems responsive through all rpm ranges. It is working as it should.

It is also worthy to note that the base plate holes are slotted, and this carb should fit either of the straight six intake stud spacing dimensions. Two of the three supplied gaskets were of the closer (old style) stud spacing. If you want a grommeted gasket for the wider studs, you will need to source it as the supplied one is paper only:




SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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Gary Lewis
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That's great news!

Did you ever solve the problem that came up every once in a while?  Seems like the engine would die and yet restart?  Might this carb solve it?
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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