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New Member , Just picked up a 1984 F-150 Inline 6

JG2020
Hi all,

Jut picked this up last week. Same year I got out of H.S. Looking forward to learning about this truck and working on it. It already has a ton of new parts installed and the body is in good shape. It's a Mississippi truck and their is no real rust anywhere. It's in NJ now!

It runs good and I am doing whatever else it needs to make it as perfect as I can.

First issue I have is the jankity air cleaner and a carb that looks like it's missing a vacuum hose ?
I have attached pics of my new baby and the suspect carb and aircleaner.

I picked up a couple of shop manuals on E-Bay and waiting for them to arrive.

Any info appreciated.

Happy to find this group!

Thanks,
Josh












Josh G
1984 F-150 Inline-Six 300
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Rembrant
Nice truck Josh. I love the short wheel base trucks and I love the pin stripes outlining the panels...very cool design.

I am also curious what the barb is for (the one just below the air cleaner).

Looks like maybe you're also missing the vacuum advance line as well?
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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JG2020
Thanks! Yep, some mysteries there for sure. I have not really touched it yet. Just about a 20 min drive. Hence the new front shocks sitting in a box in my dining room.  (  :

I am waiting for the shop manuals to dig in. First thing is to change the oil. Every other tune-up part is basically new.

I am a pretty decent mechanic but most of my die hard experience is old aircooled VW's.

I have not had an old truck since the 90's

A 73 F-100 and a 72 Intl Harvester. Wish I had them both still!

Josh
Josh G
1984 F-150 Inline-Six 300
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Gary Lewis
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Welcome!  What part of NJ?  I ask because we have a map (Bullnose Forum/Member's Map in the menu) and we could put you on if we had a town or zip.

Nice truck!  And, that's a great engine.  But the barb on the top of the carb looks like it is for filtered air to go down through the heater loop through the exhaust manifold and then to the choke.

Here's your pic blown up so I can see what's hooked to the carb.  And I can't tell from this side.

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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JG2020
Thanks Gary! I pretty much know nothing about this motor yet . There was a new exhaust installed and I saw some tubing looped around it. That's prob the heater loop you are talking about? I guess I need  to see some pics from the manuals.  I can take some more pics of the motor also. 

I am in Lambertville , NJ. Right on the Delaware river and PA border. 



On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 5:29 PM Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Welcome!  What part of NJ?  I ask because we have a map (Bullnose Forum/Member's Map in the menu) and we could put you on if we had a town or zip.

Nice truck!  And, that's a great engine.  But the barb on the top of the carb looks like it is for filtered air to go down through the heater loop through the exhaust manifold and then to the choke.

Here's your pic blown up so I can see what's hooked to the carb.  And I can't tell from this side.

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in back, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI




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ArdWrknTrk
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Welcome Josh!  

That PCV definitely needs to be connected!
If you choose another style of aftermarket air cleaner get yourself a filtered valve breather cap.
Duct tape doesn't cut it.

The EGR spacer has been crudely plated off.
If you choose not to run one you can find a non-emissions inlet spacer to eliminate the blue painted thing.

Also, be very mindful of the screws holding the carburetor down.
They have a tendency to get loose and cause vacuum leaks.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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JG2020
Thank you Jim!

I was wondering what that blue thing was. I would like to keep it as stock as possible.
Just need some pics to see what is what. I would love to find the stock air cleaner or repro.

So that blue plate with the 2 bolts is sealing that port off and an EGR valve is supposed to go there?

Thanks for the carb tip. I will check that out tomorrow.

Josh
Josh G
1984 F-150 Inline-Six 300
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ArdWrknTrk
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Beneath your carburetor it looks like the vacuum tree is entirely capped off, except for the brake booster.

I'd expect in '84 you need vacuum for climate control and the distributor.

Even though I'm on my phone I can pick some things out.

Is it possible to show the left (drivers) side of the engine?

I am no 300 I-6 expert, but we have plenty of very knowledgeable folks onboard here.  
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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ArdWrknTrk wrote
I'd expect in '84 you need vacuum for climate control and the distributor.
Only if the truck has A/C...otherwise no vacuum required for the regular heater.

It looks like it is a 4spd also, so no vacuum required for the trans.

I'm guessing that this thing did have a feedback carb on it, and it was converted over.

Lots of wiring hanging back there...


1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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ArdWrknTrk
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Thank you for picking up on that Cory.  

I think Josh is better off in your hands than mine.
Your Flareside and his Shortbed share a lot.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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JG2020
Wow! You guys are great! It is a non AC / 4 speed.  I can take more pics of the motor tomorrow.
I am going to go over the sources area of the Forum to see where to start getting things like this stock oil cap.

So glad I found this group.
Josh G
1984 F-150 Inline-Six 300
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Gary Lewis
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Cory - Just FYI, there was an option called Hi-Lo Vent, Deluxe Heater, or Comfort Vent depending on which document you look at.  I've never seen one, but it shows in the catalogs.  And basically it was A/C w/o the compressor, evap, etc.  But the stuff in the cab was identical save for the controls which didn't have the A/C position.  However it used vacuum like the A/C system.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Gary Lewis
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You are now on the map, Josh.

Yes, the loop around the exhaust is probably to heat the air for the choke.  Just one of the many things you'll get to work with as you are sorting the truck out.  But, it'll be worth it.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Welcome!
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
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85lebaront2
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Not only the ones holding it down but the ones holding the throttle body to the float bowl. I always used Loctite on them when rebuilding one.
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ArdWrknTrk
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I'm sorry I misspoke Bill.  

You are right. The ones that hold the body to the bowl.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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844rd
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Welcome, the inline 6 is a great motor.
Kevin 84 F-150 300 i6 Manual 3 speed overdrive 2.47 rear end
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JG2020
Thanks everyone!

"The EGR spacer has been crudely plated off.
If you choose not to run one you can find a non-emissions inlet spacer to eliminate the blue painted thing"

So I can find one of these plates and remove and remount the carb I guess or get the EGR Valve?

More pics added of my "setup"

Does anyone have a suggestion for an air cleaner ? Or is that little one good enough?

Josh













Josh G
1984 F-150 Inline-Six 300
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ArdWrknTrk
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I would think the climate near Philadelphia would require a factory style air cleaner in winter.
There's just no way your truck could run well year round with a tiny open element like that.

I also see a square coil and no vacuum advance on the distributor.
This suggests to me that computer controlled timing is always going to be compromised.

You really need to complete the conversion, or somehow source all the EEC IV components that have been stripped.
Or you might go with an 'all-in-one' style HEI distributor and remove the computer and harness.

David is magic when it comes to finding things (like an air cleaner) on eBay.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Gary Lewis
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I agree - you want the complete factory air cleaner system.  Go read the page at Documention/Fuel Systems/Air Cleaners for an explanation of what we are talking about.

And Jim is right - w/o the full conversion from TFI to DS-II and the removal of the EEC system your timing is going to be static.  No advance.

Or, you can go back to the full emissions system.  But there is no halfway.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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