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FuzzFace2

Fan shroud 81 F100 300 six

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Hi everyone,
I am looking for some information on fan shrouds for my 81 F100 with a 300 six and factory AC. This would be a full shroud, non-AC only has a shield on the top to protect you from the fan.
The information I can get so far from LMC truck based off radiator part numbers is 80-84 is one type of radiator, 85-86 (V belt?) & 87-96 (Serp belt?) different type of radiator.
I know the types are 80-84 bottom & top mount like I have, the 85-97 is a side mount.

Now the question on the shroud(s)
I need one for the 80-84 radiator and no one sells them that I can find.
LMC has them for the 87-96 and they list 2 different ones, AT ($30) & MT ($50) and thinking they are for the serp belt setup?

Would anyone have pictures of the 2 different shrouds (top/bottom 80-84 & side 85-86 radiators) and how they mount to the radiator?
Also if someone would have a picture of the 87-96 shroud either type, I know wrong area to ask, that would help.

Depending how different they are I might be able to use one of the later (87-96) side mount radiator shrouds with a little work?
If no pictures but you know how they mount and what is different between them would help.
Thanks
Dave ----

Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100

FuzzFace2

Re: Fan shroud 81 F100 300 six

Would any one know what the Ford part number would be for the stock part?
81 F100 with 300 / 4.9 six and factory AC.
The radiator is the 27" wide one.
Thanks
Dave ----

Gary Lewis

Re: Fan shroud 81 F100 300 six

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Is it listed here: Cooling Systems/Shroud Part #'s?

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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
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Steve83

Re: Fan shroud 81 F100 300 six

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I might still have my original '83 300ci A/C shroud, and I'm currently using a '95 4.9L A/C shroud. I assume they're interchangeable, but I'll try to remember to compare them if I can dig up the '83. I know I still have the radiator:

FuzzFace2

Re: Fan shroud 81 F100 300 six

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Gary Lewis wrote

Is it listed here: Cooling Systems/Shroud Part #'s?

I should have known to look there first

Dave ----

FuzzFace2

Re: Fan shroud 81 F100 300 six

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Steve83 wrote

I might still have my original '83 300ci A/C shroud, and I'm currently using a '95 4.9L A/C shroud. I assume they're interchangeable, but I'll try to remember to compare them if I can dig up the '83. I know I still have the radiator:

Steve that would be great and hope you can find & compare as I would like to know.
So what did you have to do to use the 95 shroud on what year truck / radiator?

I have so many notes now I am getting lost

Dave ----

Johns3524

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FuzzFace2

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Johns3524 wrote

I have factory a/c on my 86, and I could take pics of it if its necceassary, but it looks like Gary's parts info gets the job done.

John, Thanks for the offer.
I had another member on the other forum that gave me links to his pictures of 85 truck.
He had to replace the radiator and the old one was a 1 row and the new a 2 row and his shroud did not fit too good but found a good fitting one at the junk yard.

It helped a lot as I got to see how the 2 fit the radiators.
I would like to see how a 80-84 radiator / shroud fit together so I know how mine should be.

Thanks again
Dave ----

Steve83

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FuzzFace2 wrote

So what did you have to do to use the 95 shroud on what year truck / radiator?

Long story, but the shortest answer that will make some sense is: I put a '95 F150's 4.9L into my '83 Bronco.

But after rummaging around my junkpile, it looks like I might have the '83 shroud on the ~'95-ish radiator now. It's too cold to crawl around under the truck tonight to look for mold numbers on that shroud. Maybe if it warms up a little tomorrow...

FuzzFace2

Re: Fan shroud 81 F100 300 six

Steve, when ever you can and if you cat that ok also.
Bill the number guy also gave me the ford part number and gave a search and none for my truck are to be had.

My plan now is to see what others have used like you and also look over other ford shrouds close to the same size for the 300 six and make it work.
I can get the sizes from Gary's part number page, then have to cross it over to the years and then the big one if I can get it.

The other thing is I don't want to spend too much for a shroud I may need to cut & glue and not have it work.
I will post what I come up with.

Thanks
Dave ----

FuzzFace2

Re: Fan shroud 81 F100 300 six

I have another request.
I need the measurement of the fan opening as it is not posted in the part number area like how wide x tall and the bolt hole spacing.

I ask because between AC and non-AC trucks I believe they use different type of fans.
AC = clutch fan, non-AC = non-clutch fan and they may be different sizes.

My motor was a non-AC so it has a non-clutch fan. I don't see a problem using it but if it is too small for the opening I would like to know that up front before I buy a shroud that I will mod to work.

Thanks
Dave ----

Gary Lewis

Re: Fan shroud 81 F100 300 six

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Are you asking for measurements for just any shroud, or specific shrouds, like the ones for a 300?

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FuzzFace2

Re: Fan shroud 81 F100 300 six

Gary Lewis wrote

Are you asking for measurements for just any shroud, or specific shrouds, like the ones for a 300?

Just the 300's between the years of 80 on up in to the 90's as that is what I may end up with to make fit my truck.

I would think any V8 trucks would have a larger fan so a bigger opening.

I went back to your part numbers page to see if I could tell fan size but did not see any for fans.
I see them for the clutch & spacer but no fans, and I don't know if it will give the size?
Dave ----

Gary Lewis

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Dave - Have you had your eyes examined lately? The fan sizes are right there on the Cooling Fan #'s & Illustrations page.

Seriously, why didn't you tell me of my omission? There was even a header in there for the part numbers, but I'd left them out.

They are there now, but if you need anything else please let me know.

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

FuzzFace2

Re: Fan shroud 81 F100 300 six

Gary Lewis wrote

Dave - Have you had your eyes examined lately? The fan sizes are right there on the Cooling Fan #'s & Illustrations page.

Seriously, why didn't you tell me of my omission? There was even a header in there for the part numbers, but I'd left them out.

They are there now, but if you need anything else please let me know.

Gary, I don't care what they say about you .... you da man!

I was in there looking at the clutch part and see it starts in think 82.
I then hit refresh for S&G and the fan size shows up.

Other than the F100 pony opt. with a 15" fan they all look to be 18" to 18.5" size.
Also as I thought the v8's are larger.

That helps me a lot and if I can get the opening measurement for the later years I will know if I can try and use them as I think they are the ones I can get.

Thanks again,
Dave ----

FuzzFace2

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Well I went with 2 FAN SHROUD REPRO F5TZ-8146-C for 95-96 4.9 truck with AC Thru NPD.
The other for a 4.9 was for 90-96 std cooling and said something about 24"? I could not find a 24" radiator for a 4.9.

Yes 2 at $15.50 ea, for $31 it was a no brainer as all the others were $31 on up for 1.
Dave ----

Gary Lewis

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Glad you saw it when you refreshed. I was so sure that I had the info in there that I kept searching for it, only to come to the conclusion it really wasn't there.

But, you ordered two fan shrouds? And they were $15.50 each? CHEAP!

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

FuzzFace2

Re: Fan shroud 81 F100 300 six

Gary Lewis wrote

Glad you saw it when you refreshed. I was so sure that I had the info in there that I kept searching for it, only to come to the conclusion it really wasn't there.

But, you ordered two fan shrouds? And they were $15.50 each? CHEAP!

You cant put everything in all at once then you would have nothing to do but work on your trucks

When something is not in the "bible" you make short order to get it in there, thanks.

Yes 2 for that price I felt it best.
I am sure anything I would have got I would have to modify to fit / work so I could not see going for the $30 ones and I would of only got 1.

With the 2 I can use both to cut & glue to make one that will work for my setup.
I have not measured my 4 blade fan yet but I am thinking if it is too small it is an easy fix as we can get different size fans with more blades and spacers to work.

I hope they show up before the holiday as I took some time off from work and hope my brother & I can spend some time in the garage.
He was the one who sent me the flare side tail gate, tail lights w/brackets, fender fuel door & hose assy. and a few other things all the way from CA.
Dave ----

Gary Lewis

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So, your brother is coming for Christmas? Cool!

And, I do try to get on what people need. But, that's not really keeping me from working on trucks. My grandtwins being here is more fun that trucks, but at times they are in school or, as now, playing in the yard, so I sneak in a bit of time in the shop. However, getting into powder coating in the few minutes here and there won't work, so I compute.

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FuzzFace2

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Brother came in late last night.

I only 1 of the shrouds showed so far, tracking said the 2nd should be here to day so we will see.

I have not tried the one I have to see how it fits yet. Heck I have not even pulled the radiator out of the box yet.

I have all kind of notes of sizes of radiators & shrouds for the years and wouldn't you know the dog ate it!
So I am going to try the new shroud on the old radiator (brass / copper) just to see how it fits, then see what is needed to fit the new radiator (alum / plastic) so stay tuned.

I did ask my brother on plastic welding and he said he has a welder, same type I am looking at, but he has not used it yet.
He did say you should make sure you use the right plastic rod to weld with or could lead to issues just like any welding.
Dave ----