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Rembrant
Gentlemen,

I have been actively hunting for AC parts for the past several years and have pretty much decided to go with some kind of an aftermarket AC system combined with some factory and dealer AC components to finish the dash. Scott has been super helpful in helping me source some dealer AC vents and pieces. Finding a parts truck around here with factory or dealer AC has been next to impossible.

Finally, what pops up locally this week but an '86 being parted out with factory AC. The cab components are still all intact, but everything between the evaporator and condenser is missing. So there's no accumulator, no lines, and no compressor nor the brackets to mount a compressor.

So, my questions are...

I am aware of the cab differences. Could one simply modify a Non-AC cab by cutting the 3rd (middle) hole in the firewall? If changing the firewall like Dave did is the only solution, then that is pretty much a deal breaker as that not something I really want to do.

From what I can tell from the Cert Label, the parts truck dash is Chesnut in color. Looks like a light tan to me. Any issues with painting this dash blue to match my interior?

I see many of the AC parts are available aftermarket, like the lines, the accumulator, evap and condensor cores, etc. Is there an aftermarket supplier for the pumps?

What about the necessary mounting brackets and pulleys, etc for a 302? Difficult to find/locate?

If all of the above questions pass the test of being possible, what other issues would there be? Other common failure parts (controls?) that are NLA and impossible to find?

Any thoughts or comments good or bad would be appreciated.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Gary Lewis
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I believe Dave is the best one to answer the firewall question.  But I think his answer will be that you cannot just cut the extra hole, that there are overlaps that would cause problems.

I'd suggest a cab swap instead.

And I am pretty sure you can paint the dash to match.  In fact, I'm planning on that for Dad's truck as the original dash is cracked.

As for the brackets, lines, etc, I think that is doable.  And the pump/compressor is available as a replacement.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Ford F834
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Unfortunately Gary is right, the AC firewall is pretty different and you can’t just cut an additional hole. In the long run it may be worth the effort though, since all of the components will be supported for the foreseeable future, whereas aftermarket is at the mercy of the company that makes it. If you modify your vehicle to take their system and they go out of business or drop support for the model you bought you are up a creek with a modified truck. If you do pull parts for factory air, don’t forget the glove box liner. Also, even if the brackets are gone, check for the engine pulley with the additional groove for the AC belt. That can be a tricky bit to find if most of the trucks around are non air. Overall though, the brackets and pulleys for a 302 should not be a big issue to find...

Regarding painting the dash shell (I assume this is the piece you want to swap for the passenger side vent holes) this is what I told Chris McGaugh:
Ford F834 wrote
I would not go too crazy trying to find a dash shell that was originally black. The plastic itself is a white color, and all came painted from the factory. I painted a blue one to put in my ‘81. I used the SEM sand-free prep, and Duplicolor black. It has been extremely tough, and held up to a lot of abuse. I have hauled things in the cab that rubbed on it. My grandkids have put their muddy feet on it and kicked at it while in their car seats. I (jokingly) told them if they didn’t knock it off I would cut their feet off and held up a pruning bow saw. Then it just became a game and they did it even more... 😅. To my amazement when I wipe it down with a damp cloth it looks just as good as the day I painted it.
SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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1986F150Six
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Rembrant wrote
Gentlemen,

 So there's no accumulator, no lines, and no compressor nor the brackets to mount a compressor.

What about the necessary mounting brackets and pulleys, etc for a 302? Difficult to find/locate?

Any thoughts or comments good or bad would be appreciated.
Cory, reportedly from a 1986 F150 XLT Lariat with 302 [5.0?].

https://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-A-C-COMPRESSOR-PULLEY-CLUTCH-A-C-IDLER-TENSIONER-Supporting-Brackets/153374656479?hash=item23b5d787df:g:maUAAOSwxndcTziJ
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85lebaront2
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That right there is the biggest item you need. Lines can be bought aftermarket, the system will convert (done properly) to R134a, but if you can score a later compressor (FS-10 instead of FS-6) it will cool better. The 1994-1996/7 AC casing will fit the 1986 firewall with no modification. I would also recommend a later inside duct for the heater core and blend door, the later blend door actually seals the heater core off in max AC. The 1994-1996/7 condenser mounts differently from the 1986, but is adaptable.

If it were me, (a) having done Darth and (b) having to adapt the entire system, I would definitely update to the factory R134a system, just grab an entire Serpentine setup for a 302 and use the newer, improved system.
Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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Rembrant
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Ford F834 wrote
Unfortunately Gary is right, the AC firewall is pretty different and you can’t just cut an additional hole.
OK, fair enough. I was just comparing the two...or pictures of the two, and was curious.




I stole a picture from Dave's conversion, I hope he doesn't mind. It looks like the outer rectangular hole on the passenger side is the same between AC and Non-AC. The hole closer to the engine appears to be very similar...slightly shorter on the AC cab. At a glance, it looks like you'd just need to the cut the 3rd hole, and of course a few extras for coolant hoses and screw mounts, etc. Anyway, no big deal...I wouldn't mind some mild modification work, but if it's too much than it's easier for me to discard the idea.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Rembrant
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David, thanks for this. Looks like everything is there except the crank pulley....

I have it saved for now, but it's looking like a very good option right now.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Rembrant
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85lebaront2 wrote
If it were me, (a) having done Darth and (b) having to adapt the entire system, I would definitely update to the factory R134a system, just grab an entire Serpentine setup for a 302 and use the newer, improved system.
I talked to a local guy today that has Ford truck parts. He said he didn't have a V-Belt AC system for a 302, but that he did have a couple serpentine systems to fit the 302. Hmmmm.....

Can you run a serpentine system without a smog pump? Shorter belt? Or do you have to get a delete pulley?
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Rembrant
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Ford F834 wrote
Regarding painting the dash shell...
Jon, I think I had asked you before about painting the dash and that it was no problem. I was pretty sure that was OK.

About removing the shell. Is there much to it once the dash pad and radio/instrument bezels are removed?

Does the steering column need to be removed or simply unbolted from the dash bracket?


1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Ford F834
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You need to remove the whole dash and the metal frame it attaches to. The steering column/dash attachment point needs unbolted but the column stays in. The hard part is all if the dash wire loom needs to be disconnected and stays in the truck, then fastened back into the new dash shell. I would say it’s an all afternoon kind of job but not that bad. Best to do it all at once while everything’s fresh in your mind and snap a couple pictures to help you remember how it came apart. It looks worse than it is lol.
SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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81f100custom
I did this on my 81. It has been so long ago now I don't remember all the details but I do remember making the third hole in the fire wall. I changed my whole dash out also along with the radiator core support. Mine was from a 85 or 86 that the wrecking yard had taken in and had told me be there Saturday morning I could get all I wanted off the truck before anyone touched it so I was able to get the whole complete A/C system including all brackets, clips, lines, and so on. While I was at it I went ahead and got the power brakes power steering and all associated parts. I just have to remember to buy replacement parts for an 85, 86 F150 when searching for parts and not an 81.
Eddie,
81 F100 Custom SWB, 5.0L, 4x2, Single Rail Four-Speed Overdrive, 3.00 Non-Limited Slip Rear Axle, Non A/C truck to complete 85 F150 factory A/C conversion, Nutmeg interior color.
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Rembrant
81f100custom wrote
I did this on my 81. It has been so long ago now I don't remember all the details but I do remember making the third hole in the fire wall.
Thanks for the reply. If all goes well I will get to attempt this swap, and if not then I'll just go back to the original plan of an aftermarket AC system.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Rembrant
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After reviewing this some more, I have a couple more questions...

Are the vacuum motors and cables for the AC system still available new or aftermarket?

For a factory system, is the little throttle kicker solenoid going to be required on a 302?

On the ducting...the FSM shows a door to direct it to the 'instrument panel'. I assume the two instrument panel registers are tied to the two registers above the glove box?
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Gary Lewis
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The vacuum motors were available a couple of years ago when I looked.  And the cables are.

As for the throttle kicker, I don't think it is necessary.  Nice, but I think your engine will idle fine w/o it.

And I think you are right about the ducting.  But we have a number of pictures of the ducting here: Documentation/HVAC/HVAC Systems then the Illustrations, Pics, etc tab, Integral A/C cab, and then the Pictures tab.  Have you seen them?
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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FuzzFace2
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This was when I first joined and some (most) said not to do the fire wall swap.
Pictures of the AC firewall over the non-AC firewall outside and from in side.


Think it was after I was done it came out to cut the 3rd hole in the firewall. I would say go for the 3rd hole.
If you can find large paper or maybe card board to trace the AC firewall to then you can move that to your truck to mark & cut.

Now to the condenser & radiator support. I know between my 2 trucks the AC truck had a larger opening for the radiator & condenser so both of them were larger also. Now was this because both were 300 six or ???
also know the after market condenser is a little larger and you need to space out the lower part and the lower hood latch support also needs to be spaced out.
But if you are using everything from the parts truck you may not need to do this spacing out?

The wiring harness for AC is a add on to the trucks system. IIRC there was a loop and you removed the loop and plugged in the AC harness and feed it out thru the firewall to the engine bay.
My parts truck did not have a motor so don't know if it had the idle speed kick up.

I cant really say much on the dash as I swapped the whole dash / ducts & wiring from the parts truck to mine, column was out. I can tell you the center dash support from dash to firewall are different between the 2 systems.

You can paint or dye the dash assy. but use SEM products to do the job.


I don't think you will have half the trouble I did with anything under the hood.
Did I forget anything?
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Rembrant
FuzzFace2 wrote
Think it was after I was done it came out to cut the 3rd hole in the firewall. I would say go for the 3rd hole.
If you can find large paper or maybe card board to trace the AC firewall to then you can move that to your truck to mark & cut.
Dave,

This was kind of my plan, to trace out the AC holes and mark them on my Non-AC cab. It doesn't look all that bad. If you look at the marked up picture below, I see three things that need to be done:

1. A small piece would have to be added here...welded in I suppose. The AC hole here is slightly smaller (shorter) than the Non-AC.
2. This is the one set of holes that overlap each other. On the Non-AC cab this is where the blend door cable passes through. On the AC cab this is where the heater core tubes pass through. I would just cut it out and make an adapter plate here. NBD.
3. The inside air recirc hole, obviously not present on the Non-AC cab.



This area would have to be heavily modified anyway, even if I install an aftermarket system like Vintage Air, etc, and at least with a factory AC swap, none of it is visible once installed.

The local guy that is parting out the '86 with AC has gone radio silent, so I'm not sure if the parts are even available anymore. He was also trying to sell the whole truck, so it might be gone. I know of another AC truck that is being parted out, but the dash is no good.

The factory AC dash has always been the wild card/difficult to find item. I guess at the end of the day, I could install a hybrid factory AC system. In other words, the whole thing would be factory, but I'd run flexible ducting for the instrument panel and dash registers. That wouldn't be the end of the world either.

In any case, I think I'll make an offer on the 302 parts David linked to earlier. They're also a stumbling block that needs to be overcome. The parts appear to be complete except for the crank pulley, so I'll be on the hunt for one of those.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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1986F150Six
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Would this work, Cory? The description states 2 grooves, but I count 3.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-to-1985-Ford-Mustang-OEM-302-5-0-V8-2-groove-Crank-Pulley-D6DE-8509-B1A/202827285621?hash=item2f3972c475:g:lJsAAOSwHaddyx1g

Edit:

Here is an older NOS pulley:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-OEM-Ford-1973-1978-Galaxie-500-LTD-Crank-Pulley-1974-1975-1976-1977-302ci/401624167852?epid=2044580831&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item5d82aa75ac:g:Ge0AAOSwTFBbxln6&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qXg9sCRNFFsr5VG56F%2F6duF8tjyeqskCI7X49Pup1KQs2BvElPINMbGeTDIxTrEEVokzELL0HARyX8Y6dmrWOByzZG9xMHumR2e8lVcAc7qAJ2iyG1%2BzZv2nsd9URHEse74XgcxdItJ8NvOAWjODYFa4sJ8OFXqq9sOBrqUAjS1OqPg33CiC666ReQFUGME%2BwKWLrpWOZL2xBVf7aAazgllHBGNoAS%2B0vwwwYb887QRZu0BTo47UMTkC5WWH7O7yFl7eKA6PWCUlQQibd1pXcpWZkh1XwxjqnyJy5PlkbhdzRYDLjJEtmztdUBkOS%2FCNPszddWOvDkHAXiX%2BUib0oFQiLt%2FB95VQvo%2BJJR%2BomQMB%2FM%2Fo0PQtREXXG5OlJrBBwY%2FpwF%2Feagxn2ZPvLSQatCInUdWudkevYThv%2BTLbRgP8Vds%2Biipb%2B%2FBd0kZHJVHWb%2Fs26AJVF2Yp9T4qshSj7V2WgPwMTXdU1N75FCVMf9XGblGlVBLJdbQun14rrpWcbnxInj%2FAYEQqbaJEqjxABNPFZiTgHNDN5qU6qqacdtCTOgTUvUM6PiSNjY0EZMblbKvO2EpWD8LNwqroqecCamyawx%2F0m25KHKAnfWQdGynmN7fZXpz91hANeppsgF%2FcOinbHFKkXaxGzkQBvWt2naHGx%2FAghTc4Y37Odgs7igHOtiVK5cu7rHPe7RHAgJh7Oe8txBovcdnUQV8llk63XUp9fwgVWZKWkYUfRp%2BtXrHHdp7SX4zjYRp6w%2FrfmvHspU%3D&checksum=401624167852e52832fcae594f4683a5196b0c518227&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qXg9sCRNFFsr5VG56F%2F6duF8tjyeqskCI7X49Pup1KQs2BvElPINMbGeTDIxTrEEVokzELL0HARyX8Y6dmrWOByzZG9xMHumR2e8lVcAc7qAJ2iyG1%2BzZv2nsd9URHEse74XgcxdItJ8NvOAWjODYFa4sJ8OFXqq9sOBrqUAjS1OqPg33CiC666ReQFUGME%2BwKWLrpWOZL2xBVf7aAazgllHBGNoAS%2B0vwwwYb887QRZu0BTo47UMTkC5WWH7O7yFl7eKA6PWCUlQQibd1pXcpWZkh1XwxjqnyJy5PlkbhdzRYDLjJEtmztdUBkOS%2FCNPszddWOvDkHAXiX%2BUib0oFQiLt%2FB95VQvo%2BJJR%2BomQMB%2FM%2Fo0PQtREXXG5OlJrBBwY%2FpwF%2Feagxn2ZPvLSQatCInUdWudkevYThv%2BTLbRgP8Vds%2Biipb%2B%2FBd0kZHJVHWb%2Fs26AJVF2Yp9T4qshSj7V2WgPwMTXdU1N75FCVMf9XGblGlVBLJdbQun14rrpWcbnxInj%2FAYEQqbaJEqjxABNPFZiTgHNDN5qU6qqacdtCTOgTUvUM6PiSNjY0EZMblbKvO2EpWD8LNwqroqecCamyawx%2F0m25KHKAnfWQdGynmN7fZXpz91hANeppsgF%2FcOinbHFKkXaxGzkQBvWt2naHGx%2FAghTc4Y37Odgs7igHOtiVK5cu7rHPe7RHAgJh7Oe8txBovcdnUQV8llk63XUp9fwgVWZKWkYUfRp%2BtXrHHdp7SX4zjYRp6w%2FrfmvHspU%3D&checksum=401624167852e52832fcae594f4683a5196b0c518227
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Rembrant
David,

That second one looks like it might work, but I'll have to find a way to confirm so before buying one. My existing pulley is a two groove...one for the ALT and one for the rad fan and Pwr Steering. The pulley for a 302 with AC must have 3 grooves...but I don't know what it looks like.

1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Gary Lewis
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Cory - Pulleys are a difficult thing to sort out.  There was supposed to be a page (Section 60 Pg 5) on them in the MPC, as shown in the snippet below, but none of the digitized MPC's have that page.  I'll climb to the microfiche tower later and see if I can find one.

But remember that the # on a part is not the part #.  So the second pulley David found had D3AE 6512-AIA, and that's the # you'd be looking for in the Description column.

However, there were lots of ID #'s that correlate to a single part #, so I'll try to cross-ref that part # after a bit as well.

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Rembrant
Gary Lewis wrote
Cory - Pulleys are a difficult thing to sort out.  There was supposed to be a page (Section 60 Pg 5) on them in the MPC, as shown in the snippet below, but none of the digitized MPC's have that page.  I'll climb to the microfiche tower later and see if I can find one.

But remember that the # on a part is not the part #.  So the second pulley David found had D3AE 6512-AIA, and that's the # you'd be looking for in the Description column.

However, there were lots of ID #'s that correlate to a single part #, so I'll try to cross-ref that part # after a bit as well.

That would be awesome Gary, thank you!

I found this one below that almost matches 100%...it has A3A instead of AA...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-4-Groove-302-351-Crank-Pulley-D3DE-6312-A3A/254195743828?epid=1033857901&hash=item3b2f3f3c54:g:ucMAAOSwjR5awn6W
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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