Disc Brake Dust Shield Interchange Information Needed

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Disc Brake Dust Shield Interchange Information Needed

FuzzFace2
First I want to thank everyone for any help you can give.

Trucks: 81 F100, 2WD, 4700 GVW,1 has power brakes the other non-power brakes.

Disc brake dust shields between the 2 the same?
What I tried to look up on my parts CD for the last hour and got lost! I don't know how you guys do it?
I think I cam up with main part numbers but not sure.

2K004-RH
2K005-LH

Also found
man. brakes 80/83 - parts list 15 or 16
power brakes 80/83 - parts list 6 (4600 - 4700 GVW)

I don't need to full part numbers just if they are both use the same shields.
I don't want to pull the good ones if they will not fit, waste of time I can use doing something else.

Thanks again
Dave G.
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Gary Lewis
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Dave - Why not use the info on this website?  It is under Driveline/Brakes.  On the Dust Shields tab you'll see a tab for Part #'s, and there you'll see that the manual brakes are -C and the power brakes are -D.  In other words, different part numbers.  So that probably means they won't interchange.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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FuzzFace2
Gary, that's a good question, why didn't I use your site

Great 1 little letter and they may not fit.
I will look closer at the 2 parts with out pulling the good ones off to see if I can tell where the difference might be.

I am thinking it might be the "off set" as that's why the rotor/hub assy. would not swap over to the other spindles.

Thanks for your help
Dave G.
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Gary Lewis
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The rotors may be different diameters as well.  But there's some difference, and a "1 little letter" difference can mean huge physical differences.

And, I didn't mean to sound as sarcastic as I did when I read what I wrote again.  Sorry.  But I knew that going down the parts list rabbit hole is frustrating, and that there's a better way.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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85lebaront2
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One little letter can also mean nothing more than a revision, but usually parts lists will show R/B meaning replaced by.
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FuzzFace2
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Gary Lewis wrote
The rotors may be different diameters as well.  But there's some difference, and a "1 little letter" difference can mean huge physical differences.

And, I didn't mean to sound as sarcastic as I did when I read what I wrote again.  Sorry.  But I knew that going down the parts list rabbit hole is frustrating, and that there's a better way.
I never even thought that

I do know the calipers & pads are the same between the 2 trucks.
I also know the offset of the 2 rotor/hubs are different as are the spindles to work with the offset.

I will clean up & paint the shields that I know will work, the rot is not that bad, so if the good ones will not fit I don't have to stop the job.

Will keep you posted.
Thanks
Dave G.
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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FuzzFace2
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85lebaront2 wrote
One little letter can also mean nothing more than a revision, but usually parts lists will show R/B meaning replaced by.
I did not get that far yesterday to look into the 2 parts in question.
It is looking like next weekend till I would be able to check.

I did look over the shields that I know will work, the little bit of rot is not bad so I will hit them with a wire brush and paint them when I paint the other rebuilt parts so I have them ready just in case.

Thanks
Dave G.
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Gary Lewis
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Good!  Sometimes I get in a sarcastic mood and it shows in my writing.  I responded that way to someone else at about the same time.  

Anyway, glad the rot isn't to bad and that you have a backup plan.  
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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FuzzFace2
Had to go to the back up plan

I looked a little closer between the 2 different shields just before I was going to pull the good set off and as I kind of thought it is the off set of the mounts/dish.
The one I need, non-power 5x5 wheel bolt pattern, has a deeper dish than the other, power 5x4.5 wheel bolt pattern.

There was no way I could take pictures with out pulling apart the good set and I did not want to do that.
Maybe I can get a measurement and will check next time out in the garage.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Gary Lewis
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It would be good to document the differences.  That way when someone asks in future we'll have the answer.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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FuzzFace2
Gary Lewis wrote
It would be good to document the differences.  That way when someone asks in future we'll have the answer.
I will go back over this thread and put together something the best I can before I put the truck back together.
In short the 5x5 wheel pattern, non-power brake uses a deeper dish but dont know by how much.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Gary Lewis
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Ok, thanks.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI