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'84 Ford Smog Pump

JMUBullnose
Hi all - was curious if anyone had diagrams of how the Smog Pump, check valve and piping should run on the 302 V8? The pump has been off the truck for decades as Georgia didn't require it - and VA safety finally caught up to it even though the truck has been passed thru safety inspections for years in this state.

Anyone able to take a photo of how it should look in the engine bay?
1984 F-150, 302 CID (5.0 L) Windsor V8, 2 BBL carb, power windows added, remote entry added. AC. Non-EFI. Automatic Transmission.
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Gary Lewis
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Yes, and no.  I don't have pictures but I do have the illustrations from the master parts catalog and they are pretty good.  I'll create a new page with those illustrations for your truck as well as all the others, and I'll be back when I'm done with a link to it.....  
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/soon-to-be ZF5/3.55's & EEC-V MAF/SEFI
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JMUBullnose
Thanks! That'd be awesome! I think I have most the parts, including the cross over pipes, check valve and pump. Can't remember if I have the tensioner/adjuster bracket.

"What GIS hath wrought, let no man, except management, tear asunder" 
- A. Wise Analyst

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes, and no.  I don't have pictures but I do have the illustrations from the master parts catalog and they are pretty good.  I'll create a new page with those illustrations for your truck as well as all the others, and I'll be back when I'm done with a link to it.....  
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/soon-to-be ZF5/3.55's & EEC-V MAF/SEFI



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1984 F-150, 302 CID (5.0 L) Windsor V8, 2 BBL carb, power windows added, remote entry added. AC. Non-EFI. Automatic Transmission.
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85lebaront2
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I am surprised that I haven't been given grief over mine. It is a 1986 F350 with the 460, originally carbureted, now MAF/SEFI and changed from a C6 to an E4OD. I still have an underhood sticker with the vacuum diagram for the carbureted engine, no air pump installed because it only went to the catalytic converter and since the bottom portion of the emission label says "NON CATALYST" in 1/4" high letters, I have no need for or place to use an air pump.

If by any chance you can read the calibration code, I do have all the diagrams in my AllData and can print and scan it for you. If not, maybe based on equipment and where it originated Gary and I between us can come up with what you need. Unless you are in an area with actual testing, a visual inspection is all I get here, they are not even allowed to "thump" a converter to see if it's been gutted.
"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional"
Darth Vader 1986 F-350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator
Wife's 2011 Flex Limited
Daily Driver 1994 Taurus LX
Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413
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JMUBullnose
This is what I get for switching shops, old one is farther away and not as easy to get to anymore (used to work near it). They always let it go as they understood. 

"What GIS hath wrought, let no man, except management, tear asunder" 
- A. Wise Analyst

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 10:08 AM, 85lebaront2 [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email]> wrote:
I am surprised that I haven't been given grief over mine. It is a 1986 F350 with the 460, originally carbureted, now MAF/SEFI and changed from a C6 to an E4OD. I still have an underhood sticker with the vacuum diagram for the carbureted engine, no air pump installed because it only went to the catalytic converter and since the bottom portion of the emission label says "NON CATALYST" in 1/4" high letters, I have no need for or place to use an air pump.
"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional"
Darth Vader 1986 F-350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator
Wife's 2011 Flex Limited
Daily Driver 1994 Taurus LX
Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413



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1984 F-150, 302 CID (5.0 L) Windsor V8, 2 BBL carb, power windows added, remote entry added. AC. Non-EFI. Automatic Transmission.
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Gary Lewis
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See if this helps: Emissions/Thermactor Systems.
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/soon-to-be ZF5/3.55's & EEC-V MAF/SEFI
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JMUBullnose
Gary - Huge help, thanks!

"What GIS hath wrought, let no man, except management, tear asunder" 
- A. Wise Analyst

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email]> wrote:
See if this helps: Emissions/Thermactor Systems.
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/soon-to-be ZF5/3.55's & EEC-V MAF/SEFI



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Gary Lewis
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Welcome.

One of the significant advantages to this forum is that requests for documentation by members of this forum will be seen by me and will, as well and as quickly as I can, be honored with said documentation being added to the website.
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/soon-to-be ZF5/3.55's & EEC-V MAF/SEFI
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85lebaront2
Gary, as I mentioned earlier, I have most if not all of the vacuum diagrams available to me in MY AllData.
"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional"
Darth Vader 1986 F-350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator
Wife's 2011 Flex Limited
Daily Driver 1994 Taurus LX
Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413
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Gary Lewis
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Can we put them on the website w/o problems with Alldata?
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/soon-to-be ZF5/3.55's & EEC-V MAF/SEFI
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Rembrant
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JMUBullnose wrote
Anyone able to take a photo of how it should look in the engine bay?
I just recently removed all of this stuff from my 1984 302, so if there are any little obscure pieces that you need, I might still have 'em kickin' around.

I didn't really take any pictures, but I had the one below showing the pump still intact a couple months ago.


In rehab: 1984 F150 2wd Flareside pickup. Original 302 2bbl DSII w/3-spd manual column shift. Plain Jane with no A/C and no radio.
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JMUBullnose
That'd be awesome! Thanks! I'm pretty sure I picked up the crossover pipe a few years ago, along with the check valve. I don't have the diverter though.

What led you to remove it off your ride?

"What GIS hath wrought, let no man, except management, tear asunder" 
- A. Wise Analyst

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Rembrant [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email]> wrote:
JMUBullnose wrote
Anyone able to take a photo of how it should look in the engine bay?
I just recently removed all of this stuff from my 1984 302, so if there are any little obscure pieces that you need, I might still have 'em kickin' around.

I didn't really take any pictures, but I had the one below showing the pump still intact a couple months ago.


In rehab: 1984 F150 2wd Flareside pickup. Original 302 2bbl DSII w/3-spd manual column shift. Plain Jane with no A/C and no radio.



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JMUBullnose
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I also wanted to ask - how hard was it to remove the crossover pipe?

Looks like I'm missing the adjuster/tensioner bracket (9B452) and having a hard time sourcing the tubing (9B466)
1984 F-150, 302 CID (5.0 L) Windsor V8, 2 BBL carb, power windows added, remote entry added. AC. Non-EFI. Automatic Transmission.
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85lebaront2
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Yes, because the originals are Ford, and if I simply remove the AllData from the pictures they are just plain vacuum diagrams. It puts them out either printed or pdf format.
"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional"
Darth Vader 1986 F-350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator
Wife's 2011 Flex Limited
Daily Driver 1994 Taurus LX
Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413
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Gary Lewis
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Bill - Perhaps you could send me the pdf's for our trucks?  I could put them up on tabs for each engine.  Thanks!

And, I can trim them if that's easier for you.
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/soon-to-be ZF5/3.55's & EEC-V MAF/SEFI
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Rembrant
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JMUBullnose wrote
I also wanted to ask - how hard was it to remove the crossover pipe?

Looks like I'm missing the adjuster/tensioner bracket (9B452) and having a hard time sourcing the tubing (9B466)
Which one is the crossover pipe? I tried to be careful removing all of this stuff, but the one line I did cut off was the pipe from the cat converter. I cut it off somewhere close to the exhaust manifold on the passenger side. What pieces do you need? I'll take some pictures of what I have tomorrow...I think all of the smog stuff is at work.

I removed mine to clean up the engine bay, and simplify things. No smog checks required here on old "antique" vehicles.
In rehab: 1984 F150 2wd Flareside pickup. Original 302 2bbl DSII w/3-spd manual column shift. Plain Jane with no A/C and no radio.
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Rembrant
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JMUBullnose wrote
I also wanted to ask - how hard was it to remove the crossover pipe?

Looks like I'm missing the adjuster/tensioner bracket (9B452) and having a hard time sourcing the tubing (9B466)
I have the bracket and the tubing. Let me know what else you might need. You're welcome to have it...might cost a few bucks to ship it.
In rehab: 1984 F150 2wd Flareside pickup. Original 302 2bbl DSII w/3-spd manual column shift. Plain Jane with no A/C and no radio.
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85lebaront2
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I can do that, I don't know how far back the information goes though.
"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional"
Darth Vader 1986 F-350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator
Wife's 2011 Flex Limited
Daily Driver 1994 Taurus LX
Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413
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Gary Lewis
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Whatever you can do.
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/soon-to-be ZF5/3.55's & EEC-V MAF/SEFI
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85lebaront2
Check your inbox sir.
"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional"
Darth Vader 1986 F-350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator
Wife's 2011 Flex Limited
Daily Driver 1994 Taurus LX
Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413
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