81 f100 inline 6

It is aluminium, but thankfully the guy here has a whole column for me for $80. Non-tilt, floor shift original in working order. Gonna grab that this weekend.

got it Gary, and I have the heater only style. so if I want AC I get to go aftermarket or put a whole new dash and then all the AC components in the engine bay and cut out the firewall.

Jim, your help has been invaluable here. part added to the list.  Thanks again!

$80 is a good deal!

Hope it's all they said, Fred

Fred1090 wrote

got it Gary, and I have the heater only style. so if I want AC I get to go aftermarket or put a whole new dash and then all the AC components in the engine bay and cut out the firewall.

Jim, your help has been invaluable here. part added to the list.  Thanks again!

I think I posted this, the hardest part of adding AC to your truck will be mounting the compressor on the six.
With either parts from a factory AC truck and cutting & filling holes to mount the box to the firewall and dash with vents or after market box you still need a compressor mounted to the motor.
I would say either way you go start looking for compressor mounts so you have them when the time comes.
Dave ----

I think you're right Dave, thanks for all your advice so far and I'll add it to the list. Just need to get the column, carb, distributor, radiator, tires and clutch fixed. Then I'll be right on to adding stuff. and it gets a whole different kinda hot down here compared to KY where I'm from so AC is a big want.  

Fred1090 wrote

I think you're right Dave, thanks for all your advice so far and I'll add it to the list. Just need to get the column, carb, distributor, radiator, tires and clutch fixed.< Then I'll be right on to adding stuff. and it gets a whole different kinda hot down here compared to KY where I'm from so AC is a big want.

Is that all
I under stand where you are coming from, I just did not do it that way, everything or nothing
Dave ----

If it came that way and you want it registered and roadworthy, what choice do you have?

Exactly Jim, and my budget and prep for this project was 0. I offered him $1000 for the truck last summer when I was ready for one. He didn't want to sell. Was moving and realized he still couldn't start this truck to move it. Called me and said if Id tow it it was mine. given I have free towing coverage the price was right lol

Also, can anyone confirm if this gasket will work for me?
https://www.summitracing.com/ga/parts/fel-os34601r/applications I see in the reviews it was used on an 83, but the compatibility says 88+

I can't say, as I'm no expert on the 300.
But maybe there were some bolt hole changes when it went EFI?

I know that with the 460 the water pump changed for '88, and the timing case changed because there was no more fuel pump hole in the side.

Fred1090 wrote

Also, can anyone confirm if this gasket will work for me?
https://www.summitracing.com/ga/parts/fel-os34601r/applications I see in the reviews it was used on an 83, but the compatibility says 88+

That is the one piece oil pan gasket which was introduced in 1987, I believe. It replaced the drip prone 4 piece gasket from earlier. It can be used on earlier oil pans. When the pan is removed, you will see small raised areas around each hole for the mounting bolts. These raised areas helped hold the cork gasket in place. These need to be ground smooth [not difficult].


My 1986 4.9L has had the original gasket set replaced with one of these gaskets and does not leak.

Mystery solved!

Thank you David for the edification.  

ArdWrknTrk wrote

Mystery solved!

Thank you David for the edification.  

You are welcome, Mr. Administrator!

JUNIOR administrator!  
More a data clerk than a systems engineer...

But, you are doing it well!

Thank you!  

ArdWrknTrk wrote

I can't say, as I'm no expert on the 300.
But maybe there were some bolt hole changes when it went EFI?

I know that with the 460 the water pump changed for '88, and the timing case changed because there was no more fuel pump hole in the side.

Is this also when it went to the serp single belt and reverse turning water pump and the reason for the timing cover change not the no fuel pump needed.

I remember seeing a post on the 302 covers and you could see the covers were different because of the water flow and pump used.
Dave ----

Dave,
Serpentine 460's don't have a RR water pump.
If you look at a belt diagram you'll see the pulley is inside the belt (don't have it on my phone)
The flow is the same.

Just the water pump neck was enlarged because of the water to oil cooler.
Bill will call these ' the grenade'

Serpentine came with the '88 model, and EFI.
Prior, Ford just put a blank plate over the hole when the 460 optioned with the Hot Fuel Handling system that incorporated in-tank pumps and a vapor separator 'T' for the return line to the tanks.

This kept cool fuel from the tanks circulating through the hot engine bay and lessening the chance of vapor lock with the mechanical fuel pump deadheaded and sitting between the PS pump and #5 exhaust.

Well I just learned something I would have thought when the belt changed the water pump would too like the 302.
Dave ----

Guys, you're way over my head on this one lol but I'm learning the terms and deciphering. Lots to learn....

Finished my first carb rebuild not for a motorcycle earlier. Truck fires right up without fiddling now  the carb was full of crud and all the internals got dried out. Before it ran but now no pumping the pedal and trying 3 times to start. Idle still seems super high though. I need to find a good video or write up on tuning these carbs, which is something I can probably find by searching here.

I've also gotten the door locks switched, damn those are tight to get in!

New plug wires are in as well.

Fred, have you checked for vacuum leaks at the base gasket?
7/10 a high idle after rebuilding a carb is found here.  (at least, that's what I see on the forum)

(Edit to add) maybe there is a vacuum line you missed reconnecting? Like for the choke heater?