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FuzzFace2
PetesPonies wrote
Looks great for sure. On the dash patch, I hope your glue holds up. I weld plastic pieces because this is a thermoplastic and it can melt. I find most times the gluing doesn't hold up. Did you use a plastic epoxy?
I used fiber glass rosin to "glue" it in. I sanded around the glue edges to give it some tooth to bite in and should never come apart.

I do have plastic repair kit called Plastex (site was down so no link) thatI have used on another project to repair (make a new) lip for a dash bezel.
I just did not think the kit was the way to go with the dash repair and why I went with fiber glass.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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FuzzFace2
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Gary Lewis wrote
You can see here (Driveline/Wheels) that in '82 they offered an F100 with 5 x 4.5" wheels.  And, if I remember correctly, the power braked F100's had the 4 1/2" spacing and the manual had the 5 1/2".  It is counterintuitive, but I'm pretty sure that's correct.
Yep from what I found between my 2 trucks it all has to do with power or non-power brakes.
This also changes the kingpin sizes, spindles, rotors, dust shields and brakes front & rear.
I did not know of this before I bought the parts truck but I am sure I would have still got it as I used a lot more of it than the front suspension.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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FuzzFace2
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844rd wrote
Thank you for the great documentation on your project. Very inspiring. I have the 300 I6 I hope to soon do a DS-2 from TFI swap so I love all the pictures you have, it's a great reference.
I am happy it helps.
If you need other pictures just ask and I will try and get them.
It may take a little time as I don't get on here much with my work hours and all.


Rembrant wrote
844rd wrote
Thank you for the great documentation on your project. Very inspiring.
It sure is inspiring. Can't wait to see it finished.
I also cant wait to see it finished either LOL
I hope it cools off some now that fall is here but never know it, it has been in the low 90's last week and was almost 90 in the garage today.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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FuzzFace2
I did not do anything to the truck but to what is left of the parts truck (cab) so I can start cutting it up to scrap it.

A few weeks ago we got hit with a hurricane and when I started looking at what was left of the cab the windshield that was busted from the roll over started to fall out into the cab.
Being we have 2 dogs I was afraid they would run thru the cab and get cut on the glass so today I took it out the rest of the way. I then vacuumed the glass up on the floor and any in the grass.

I also pulled off the hood hinges, wiper motor and linkage and any bolts, screws, clips, etc. so I have extras if ever need them.

My son should be back here in a week or so and going to have him cut the cab up so I can run it to the town dump as they have a scrap metal bin. I cant see getting much $ for it and I dint know where to even take it so the town dump it is.

That is where I took what was left of the bed and the guys said it was the first time someone brought in a truck for scrap.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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FuzzFace2
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A few weeks ago I saw a leak from the radiator of my project so I used the pressure tester and found it coming from the lower hose nipple into the tank.

So today being it is getting colder and I still had water in the cooling system of my project and the leak I drained it.
Well just before I drained it I look the radiator over a little better and found 3 tube by the tank and 1 in the center.
So looks like I am going to need a new radiator :'(

Not on the truck but I had to replace a ballast for one of the lights in the garage so I can see to do the rest of the body work. It had to be one over the truck!
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Gary Lewis
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At least you found it now before you got away from home and overheated.  That could have been a serious problem.

On the lights, are you using T12's, T8's, or T5's.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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FuzzFace2
Steve thanks for the link but ..... when I first moved in in 2015 I had the service to the garage upgraded so I could run my air compressor and lights installed because the 2 - 8' lights were not enough to do any work in there. I added 5 more 8' lights and if I ever want to I can wire in the 2 old lights but I don't need them yet.

On the project I did order the radiator & the AC condenser. It would be nice if they came in for this weekend as they are talking a snow / ice storm late Saturday into Sunday and if so I may not have work Monday and could work on the truck.

I got them thru Rock Auto, I was able to get both less S&H for the same price of just the radiator thru Auto Zone.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Gary Lewis
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Might they arrive on Saturday?
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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FuzzFace2
Gary Lewis wrote
Might they arrive on Saturday?
On line said they were on the truck at 4:30am.
I was doing yard work all day, kept the dogs in most of that time and never saw a truck.
So they never came Saturday and today would have been a great day to do that work as we got up snow on the ground with ice on top and rain after it.
With no parts and to cold (read lazy as I have a heater I could use) to do body work I stayed in the warm house.

Boss said to call in to work but I am thinking the trucks will stay parked for another day. Besides its too wet for cement work so I hope the parts come tomorrow.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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FuzzFace2
I got the AC condenser & Radiator today what a little snow will do to packages!

I don't know when I will mount the new radiator as I have to come up with a fan shroud and will use the old one for fitting so I don't hurt the new one.

I will mount the condenser as that needs "adjustment" to fit and will take a little work to do.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Gary Lewis
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Did they lay them in the snow?  

Anyway, I'll be they are pretty.  As for the shroud, I don't know how big of a deal it is that the shroud fits the fan closely.  But, you could always find the fan blade to fit whatever shroud you find.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Ford F834
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Hi Dave, remind me... was your brother able to source AC brackets for you? I was looking at your engine pic and it looks like you are running a Saginaw? Not sure if that PS pump bracket jives with the 83+ AC stuff. I also noticed that you have the tiny little weird I6 power steering fluid cooler loop. My ‘81 has that and the fluid smelled really burnt. If you have the opportunity I would suggest grabbing the longer type from V8 or heavier duty truck.





I don’t know if this helps at all, but I found a pic of the shroud mounted to the radiator out of my ‘82 donor. It’s the wide “extra cooling” model so the hole is fairly off set. The junkyards in Flagstaff and Prescott charge I think $15 for fan shrouds, but shipping it to you would cost more than the part. I don’t go as often as I used to but I can look next time I am able to go, if you would like. My ‘81 had the narrower shroud for the standard radiator and it was thrashed so I discarded it.
SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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Steve83
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Ford F834 wrote
It’s the wide “extra cooling” model so the hole is fairly off set.
The water pump (which carries the fan) is centered above the crankshaft, and the radiator is centered on the frame.  But the engine (crankshaft) is always offset to the passenger side an inch or 2, so the fan is always offset in the shroud.
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FuzzFace2
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Gary Lewis wrote
Did they lay them in the snow?  

Anyway, I'll be they are pretty.  As for the shroud, I don't know how big of a deal it is that the shroud fits the fan closely.  But, you could always find the fan blade to fit whatever shroud you find.
No they did not lay them in the snow, it was all gone by the time they got to me.

What I meant was when we get any snow even an inch the state shuts down.
Where the FedEx depot is they got up to 8"+ inches. Driver said they did not go out for 2 days because drivers were getting stuck so was better to not go out.

I measured the 4 blade fan last night and got 18.5" so that is what the parts book said it should be so that's a good start.
I am waiting on the 2 shrouds to show up so I can see what I have to work with.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Ford F834 wrote
Hi Dave, remind me... was your brother able to source AC brackets for you? I was looking at your engine pic and it looks like you are running a Saginaw? Not sure if that PS pump bracket jives with the 83+ AC stuff. I also noticed that you have the tiny little weird I6 power steering fluid cooler loop. My ‘81 has that and the fluid smelled really burnt. If you have the opportunity I would suggest grabbing the longer type from V8 or heavier duty truck.





I don’t know if this helps at all, but I found a pic of the shroud mounted to the radiator out of my ‘82 donor. It’s the wide “extra cooling” model so the hole is fairly off set. The junkyards in Flagstaff and Prescott charge I think $15 for fan shrouds, but shipping it to you would cost more than the part. I don’t go as often as I used to but I can look next time I am able to go, if you would like. My ‘81 had the narrower shroud for the standard radiator and it was thrashed so I discarded it.
Brother has not come up with any AC brackets but I also have not asked him in a year. He will be here for Xmas so I will put a little bug in his ear to see if he can come up with something.

As for fitting I think the main bracket that bolts to the block with the PS bracket uses spacers between them. The only thing I am not sure is front / back spacing for belt line up but I am sure I can work that out.
I also have the other style pump but this set up was on the truck, I knew it worked and why I went with it.

As for the "cooler" the fluid looked good but I also don't know how long the truck ran at any time as it was only used in the small yard.
Now between the 2 trucks only 1 had the cooler and now after the above I cant remember if the cooler was on this truck or the parts truck? I just felt it was best to use it over nothing.

Now as for the bigger cooler you said was from a v8 was that also a 4x4 truck? I have seen 4x4 truck have HD parts that could be used on the 4x2 trucks. I will look for the larger cooler if I ever get to a JY and that is the problem as I don't have the time when they are open to go.
Also I have not seen our year trucks in JY's when looking on line and the parts trucks on CL the wife would kill me if I got another one.

Pictures always help. I have 2 newer truck shrouds coming. Yes 2 as they were $15.50 each and thinking I can cut and glue them to make work.
The only thing I saw on the review was they were thin and flexed so thinking they would need a little work anyway.
I also have a shroud from something that was in the bed of the parts truck I can use for "parts" if need be.
Stay tune
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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FuzzFace2
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Steve83 wrote
Ford F834 wrote
It’s the wide “extra cooling” model so the hole is fairly off set.
The water pump (which carries the fan) is centered above the crankshaft, and the radiator is centered on the frame.  But the engine (crankshaft) is always offset to the passenger side an inch or 2, so the fan is always offset in the shroud.
Steve, they do make 2 different radiators, 1 is wider, as they also do on the radiator support opening that is bigger.

I do know the support & radiator is the wide ones so the shrouds will have to be made to match.
I just don't know how much work it will take to "make it work".
I think the new shrouds are an inch shorter top / bottom based on information I have found but we will see when I get them.

Thanks for the offer of looking for one and may take you up on that if this does not work out.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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FuzzFace2
So even if I have not done any work on the truck I have been thinking of things I would like to do.
One is to add driving lights to the front bumper. No not bolted to the top or bottom but in the bumper.

So last night I pulled the 2 bumpers in off the to keep pile to give them a look over.
They are both bent and they are a little stronger than I thought and because of that I gave up on 1.
The other I was able to get back into shape. It is not perfect but for what I want to do with the bumper, lights, I think it will be good and never be seen.

When I get into this custom bumper I will take pictures along the way but need to come up with the lights so I know where to place the holes.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Ford F834
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Dave, I have sent you an email regarding AC brackets. 🙂 If you think of it, maybe take some closer pictures of your existing power steering pump bracketry.

On the cooler lines, I believe it was just the early year light-duty straight six trucks that got the tiny loop. All other trucks that I’ve seen got the longer loop. There are also various types of finned and clustered copper tube aftermarket coolers available.

SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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FuzzFace2
Ford F834 wrote
Dave, I have sent you an email regarding AC brackets. 🙂 If you think of it, maybe take some closer pictures of your existing power steering pump bracketry.

On the cooler lines, I believe it was just the early year light-duty straight six trucks that got the tiny loop. All other trucks that I’ve seen got the longer loop. There are also various types of finned and clustered copper tube aftermarket coolers available.
Jonathan, I got your email thanks.
I will get the pictures of what I have on the truck now.
I also have the other type PS pump from I think the parts truck. It's been so long I an beginning to forget what came with what truck and what I used on the flare side.

I think for now that cooler will be ok. I think it came on the parts truck and the flare had none when I got it. If I ever get to a JY I will look to see if I can get the larger one or when I get the truck on the road and if I find the PS fluid turning brown I will look into an aftermarket cooler.

Thanks again and take care of the family
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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