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1983/84 DK Harbor Blue - correct shade of blue PARTIALLY solved. Need Carpet code

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I have decided to put carpet in my truck to replace the original rubber flooring. I just can't save it - too many cracks. I can't figure out which shade of blue is correct as there are a handful of options from ACC.

Here's a reference photo of a nice '84 F150. This interior looks like mine, but I don't know what color blue that carpet is??
http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/1984-bronco-xlt.html

I have the plastics and dash color down. I have ordered a quart of SEM color coat in Dark Harbor Blue - code 3042. I strongly recommend doing this and not purchasing cans of paint. It's far more economical to buy a quart if you are going to redo the entire interior. The Preval sprayer works great!!

Can anybody help me figure out which blue is correct for my truck??

ACC 7879 Blue
ACC 8082 Crystal Blue
ACC 9304 Regatta Blue

'83 F150 XL Shortbox California
302 (EEC-III), AOD, 3.55 - stock original drivetrain

Rembrant

Re: 1983/84 DK Harbor Blue - correct shade of blue PARTIALLY solved. Need Carpet code

The Dark Harbor Blue looks great! My interior is the same color, so I hope to try that color of SEM at some point and time.

Sorry, can't help with the carpet, but I'll be following along as I'd like to order some carpet myself, and I need to know which color to order.

1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

Gary Lewis

Re: 1983/84 DK Harbor Blue - correct shade of blue PARTIALLY solved. Need Carpet code

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Glad to know the color worked out great on the plastic.

On the carpet, I'm confused. Below is what I see on their site for the optional colors for a 1980-1986 Ford Full Size Truck, Standard Cab Carpet, 2 WD 4 Speed. And I don't see any of the #'s you listed.

But, I do see "If you are not 100% certain of the correct color, please allow us to send you samples by clicking here." So I'd get samples from them. And then you can tell us what the right color is!

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

66gtk

Re: 1983/84 DK Harbor Blue - correct shade of blue PARTIALLY solved. Need Carpet code

Gary,

From ACC's site - when I plug in 1983 model year available colors
https://www.accmats.com/commerce/1983/Ford/F-150/Flooring/2256/

Thanks,
Troy

'83 F150 XL Shortbox California
302 (EEC-III), AOD, 3.55 - stock original drivetrain

66gtk

Re: 1983/84 DK Harbor Blue - correct shade of blue PARTIALLY solved. Need Carpet code

I will also add that I spent a LONG time trying to find a local source to get this paint. I even went to NAPA with some original color samples from my truck to get a custom paint match and even though they had the technology, they could not help me. It was frustrating.

I called Vinyl Pro, and a guy named "Tino" answered the phone and I could not have been more impressed with the service and helpful information I received. I had forgotten what good customer service felt like, as it's been so long!

I called on Wed and in 3-4 days they had made up a custom batch for me, packaged it up with other supplies I needed like prep and sprayer and it was at my door on Saturday! Pricing was very reasonable. I can't recommend it enough.

This SEM color coat comes READY TO SPRAY. No straining, no reducing, no additive, nothing. Dump in preval jar and start spraying. This couldn't be easier. I bought several other cans of various product trying to do this the hard way and I was wasting my time and money.

https://www.vinylpro.com/sem/

The Duplicolor Medium Blue is a joke. The cap on the can looks very good and extremely close to what I needed. What came out of the can was far from it. I took it back to get another can thinking I got a bad one, but the result was the same. Garbage. SEM Dark Shadow Blue is not even close, either. See below test sprays.

'83 F150 XL Shortbox California
302 (EEC-III), AOD, 3.55 - stock original drivetrain

Gary Lewis

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Troy - That's bizarre! Two different sets of #'s from their own site. The snag on the left is from your link for an '83. The snag on the right is from my link for any Bullnose. And in both cases I've selected Cut Pile.

If it was me, I'd send them an email now explaining what the problem is and giving them a permalink to this thread. Then I'd be on the phone on Tuesday to follow up. To me, we are trying to help them understand that their website has a problem.

And, while on, I'd order a set of samples of various blue carpets.

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Gary Lewis

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A few weeks ago someone asked for a recommendation of someone who would mix the SEM paints and ship them. I did some sleuthing and called several outfits, all but one of which said "We don't do that." The one was Vinyl Pro.

I spoke with Robin there, and she said they certainly do that so I added a link to them on our page on interior paints. And she volunteered to look at our site. I sent a link to that page to her and asked that she take a look and correct it if wrong. She sent this note back:

robin@vinylpro.com
Fri, Apr 17, 10:54 AM
to mark, me

Thank you so much Gary for including us on your website.

We are ready, willing and able to assist your fellow Ford enthusiasts with interior repair, recoloring and detailing.

Let us know how we may be of assistance.

Robin Watson
Vinyl Pro
1935 Davis Lane
Marietta, GA 30067
robin@vinylpro.com
Phone: (770) 933-8299
Toll Free: (800) 750-7939
Fax: (678) 935-4346

So I'm glad you had a great experience as well. We need to share this info 'cause it makes a huge difference when you get that kind of service.

When I order, which will be soon, I'll order from them and I'll get the Preval sprayer. Thanks for the tip!

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

66gtk

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Gary, your link was from Stock Interiors (retailer) - not ACC. (:

'83 F150 XL Shortbox California
302 (EEC-III), AOD, 3.55 - stock original drivetrain

Gary Lewis

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You are RIGHT! Good catch. My bad.

But I think I remember having gotten carpet samples from ACC directly. So, I'd check with them.

Also, Stock Interiors is a reseller/retailer of ACC, so why would they have different #'s for the colors if they are selling ACC carpet.

If ACC can't help perhaps Stock Interiors can?

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

66gtk

Re: 1983/84 DK Harbor Blue - correct shade of blue PARTIALLY solved. Need Carpet code

Ordered some samples. Curious if anybody has ordered the ESSEX cut pile with mass backing. I'm concerned with getting the carpet to fit under the door sill contours.

'83 F150 XL Shortbox California
302 (EEC-III), AOD, 3.55 - stock original drivetrain

Rembrant

Re: 1983/84 DK Harbor Blue - correct shade of blue PARTIALLY solved. Need Carpet code

66gtk wrote

Ordered some samples.

If you have carpet now, can you please let us know what ACC sample matches up the best? My truck is an '84 with the Dark Harbor Blue interior, but NO carpet, so I'd also love to know what color to order.

PS: How did you like using the Preval kit? I honestly hadn't heard of this until a couple weeks ago when I was talking to the SEM paint guy up here.

Your pictures make it obvious for me that I really need to order the Harbor Blue paint. Nothing else matches it. Thanks for sharing.

ckuske

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I'm going to start this work soon (this past week has been a bathroom remodel instead.. sigh), so thanks to all of you for sharing this info! I'll be using the Dark Harbor Blue SEM as well, it looks great.

I'll be following this thread for updates on the carpet, that comes next!

-Chris

Chris

'84 F-150 XL 2WD Flareside, 302 w/ AOD transmission, Motorcraft 2150 feedback carb w/ CA Emissions, EEC-IV w/TFI, factory A/C, speed control - Info about me and my truck - My project thread

66gtk

Re: 1983/84 DK Harbor Blue - correct shade of blue PARTIALLY solved. Need Carpet code

I don't have any carpet, so I'll just have to match it to taste/eye with what looks best. It's hard to tell on the tiny tiny samples they usually send, though. My truck came with a rubber mat originally, but I can no longer justify saving it as the condition isn't up to snuff with the rest of the interior now.

'83 F150 XL Shortbox California
302 (EEC-III), AOD, 3.55 - stock original drivetrain

66gtk

Re: 1983/84 DK Harbor Blue - correct shade of blue PARTIALLY solved. Need Carpet code

I'm glad I ripped out my original vinyl floor. The driver's side floor is unscathed - original paint looks great! passenger side must have had a leaky heater core or something. The padding must have got wet under the vinyl and the floor was just starting to surface rust. I cleaned it up with some scotch brite wire wheel pad, and then treated the area with rust converter. I'll spot paint this before installing new carpet. Caught it well in time before any damage set in.

yes, this is what a factory CA truck floor looks like. Computer under the seat on the left side, and I presume that is extra bagged insulation on the right side over the catalytic converter area for extra heat insulation?

'83 F150 XL Shortbox California
302 (EEC-III), AOD, 3.55 - stock original drivetrain

66gtk

Re: 1983/84 DK Harbor Blue - correct shade of blue PARTIALLY solved. Need Carpet code

you can see how/why the floor was wet based on the crack locations in the flooring.

'83 F150 XL Shortbox California
302 (EEC-III), AOD, 3.55 - stock original drivetrain

Rembrant

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66gtk wrote

...I presume that is extra bagged insulation on the right side over the catalytic converter area for extra heat insulation?

Yes sir. My '84 had the same bagged insulation over the exhaust. I threw it away as it was kind of rotten. I have the same vinyl floor as well, although mine does not extend down the sides of the seat like yours.

I plan to put the full carpet in mine is well, more for sound deadening than anything else.

Man your dash looks great! I will have to get myself some Dark Harbor Blue later on. Well done.

Gary Lewis

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Cory - I shared a link to this thread with Robin at Vinyl Pro and she said if you want to give her your postal code info she can give you a good idea what shipping would cost. In fact, she said "For example a three pound package shipped to Burlington, Ontario L7L7B3 would be approximately $30.00. A quart of Color Coat weighs about three pounds."

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Rembrant

Re: 1983/84 DK Harbor Blue - correct shade of blue PARTIALLY solved. Need Carpet code

Gary Lewis wrote

Cory - I shared a link to this thread with Robin at Vinyl Pro and she said if you want to give her your postal code info she can give you a good idea what shipping would cost. In fact, she said "For example a three pound package shipped to Burlington, Ontario L7L7B3 would be approximately $30.00. A quart of Color Coat weighs about three pounds."

Gary,

I will do just that, thank you.

Rembrant

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66gtk wrote

I have the plastics and dash color down. I have ordered a quart of SEM color coat in Dark Harbor Blue - code 3042. I strongly recommend doing this and not purchasing cans of paint. It's far more economical to buy a quart if you are going to redo the entire interior. The Preval sprayer works great!!

Out of curiosity, what did you do to prepare the dash pad for painting?

The quart of paint they sent you can be dumped directly into the preval jar and off you go? No mixing or anything?

I actually have a paint gun, so I guess I could use it also?

Rembrant

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66gtk wrote

Can anybody help me figure out which blue is correct for my truck??

ACC 7879 Blue
ACC 8082 Crystal Blue
ACC 9304 Regatta Blue

If you select the Cutpile option, it sure does give you more options for blue...might help to compare if they're all on the same page. I guess it doesn't matter because if you're going with the Essex, your options are not nearly as wide...

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